| uglyfatbloke | 21 Apr 2020 5:13 a.m. PST |
SO….In the interest of furthering my understanding I though I'd look at some WW2 footage of Stugs/tanks etc firing at buildings; that's got to be easy to find has n't it? Well…not so far. Any suggestions? |
| Major Mike | 21 Apr 2020 7:06 a.m. PST |
Well, not quite what your looking for, but this has AT guns and larger against bunkers and obstacles. YouTube link |
| Major Mike | 21 Apr 2020 7:17 a.m. PST |
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| deephorse | 21 Apr 2020 8:13 a.m. PST |
Towards the bottom of this page
link
is a brief video containing an even briefer sequence of a sIG33 Bison firing at a building said to be in France in 1940. There's lots of smoke and dust. Just what you'd expect I suppose. |
| uglyfatbloke | 21 Apr 2020 8:15 a.m. PST |
That's a step in the right direction MM – cheers. I really thought this would be a simple task…deploy Google and go…..not so much as it turns out. I should have framed the question here more carefully; it's not so much the Stug/Sherman/T34/whatever firing at the building so much as seeing what a Stug/Sherman/Etc HE round can do to the building that I'm looking for. |
| uglyfatbloke | 21 Apr 2020 9:00 a.m. PST |
It all helps! Really just trying to get a very rough idea of what might be expected from a middling calibre HE round hitting a building – naturally that's going to depend a lot on the nature or the building, but if I can see a fee examples it'll give me starting point. |
 ColCampbell  | 21 Apr 2020 9:06 a.m. PST |
Major Mike – nice video. I noticed that even as late as May 1945 it appears the Russians were still carrying their anti-tank rifles at about 0:40). Also not a lot of helmets being worn by the Russian troops. One wonders how much of that footage from the Russian side was staged later. Jim |
| uglyfatbloke | 21 Apr 2020 9:45 a.m. PST |
I noticed the ATRs as well, but I've read that they were still in use to the end of the war and they would certainly be effective against lots of light vehicles. |
| Trajanus | 21 Apr 2020 10:01 a.m. PST |
One wonders how much of that footage from the Russian side was staged later One also wonders about the Germans at the begging of the video who appear to have been edited in from another piece of film! 🙂 |
| Mark 1 | 21 Apr 2020 12:18 p.m. PST |
Yes, it appears that the German material was more generic, except perhaps for scenes like the issuance of a variety of 'fausts to a group of what appear to be volksgrenadiers… The Soviet ATRs should not be a surprise. ATR platoons were still a part of Soviet infantry formations through the end of the war, and were considered useful not only in annoying heavier tanks, but in taking out lighter armored vehicles like Marders or halftracks, which were still present in German forces through the end of the war, as well as being useful against infantry strongpoints and ATGs that were highly resistant to small arms fire. That said, there were also two scenes in the Berlin video of Red Army troops firing Panzerfausts. These seem to reenforce the perspective I have read that the Red Army primarily deployed the stockpiles of 'fausts they captured as assault weapons, rather than as anti-tank weapons. -Mark
(aka: Mk 1) |
| GROSSMAN | 21 Apr 2020 12:57 p.m. PST |
Also the type of building would effect the damage. |
| PeterH | 21 Apr 2020 7:12 p.m. PST |
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| tomrommel1 | 21 Apr 2020 11:28 p.m. PST |
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 Herkybird | 22 Apr 2020 2:30 p.m. PST |
Yes, a great use of fibreoptic lighting filaments! |
| Major Mike | 23 Apr 2020 7:55 a.m. PST |
OK, here is infantry and artillery vs pillbox training film. YouTube link |
opens a box of dirt roads with shellholes and tread marks on them.
