"What to do with Brigadiers" Topic

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Last Hussar	16 Apr 2020 12:30 p.m. PST
What to do with Brigadiers. They lounge around, drinking all the brandy… More to the point, do you bother to do anything with them in FoG:N? This is a typical OOB (this one is from Elchingen in 1805) 2nd Division: General of Division Louis Henri Loison Brigade: General of Brigade Eugene-Casimir Villatte 6th Light Infantry Regiment (two battalions, 1,728 men) 39th Line Infantry Regiment (two battalions, 1,633 men) Brigade: General of Brigade François Roguet 69th Line Infantry Regiment (two battalion, 1,698 men) 76th Line Infantry Regiment (three battalions, 1,789 men) In FoG that is a division with 4 small units on the table. Do we worry about the GdBs? If I follow the ‘base it on the Brigade' route, we end up with 2 x 1 large, 1 small, which seems a bit silly as the regiments are all within 160 men of each other. What do people do? Where it is a 1 regiment brigade I've been adding an Attached Officer on the assumption there is extra Staff around, not being sure whether he just had an extra title or whether there was a brigade as well as a regimental officer.
Desert Rat	16 Apr 2020 1:46 p.m. PST
The GdB can be considered the command points. I know they are clustered around the divisional commander but you can always put a mounted officer in with the units of his brigade. An officer attachment represents a really gifted GdB who is capable of doing more independent actions. Remember that FoG:N is a grand tactical set where you are commanding a corps or small army. These GdBs are beneath your consideration! If you really want to represent them, put a mounted officer on a small base and have him loiter around the units of his brigade – he won't actually do anything, it's just for aesthetics.
CamelCase	16 Apr 2020 3:25 p.m. PST
Reminds me of divisional commanders in GDA. Really should just use Corps commanders and brigadiers in that rule set. Just skip over representing them on that level, as i do with GDA.
Last Hussar	16 Apr 2020 3:35 p.m. PST
Thanks. Confirming I haven't messed up converting historical lists. May keep them where they have just one FoG unit, as he's only having to yell at one colonel!
MajorB	17 Apr 2020 4:32 a.m. PST
"What to do with Brigadiers" A Brigadier commands a brigade. So that is what he should be doing.
IronDuke596	17 Apr 2020 8:25 a.m. PST
+1 MajorB.
Brownand	18 Apr 2020 6:59 a.m. PST
don't use FOG:N?
Royal Marine	18 Apr 2020 9:49 a.m. PST
I suggest we give them command of U.N.I.T ;-)
bpreston	24 May 2020 5:14 p.m. PST
There is no independently modeled command structure below the Division in FoGN. It goes Corps: Division : Unit. Brigade Commander attachments are available to represent 'officers of outstanding ability', but otherwise GdB are not separately modeled, and would be represented by command figures in a unit or by command points. It's a matter of level of play and layers of complexity. Having decided on a Corps level game, and wanting to not get too complex and unwieldy in game play terms, the FoGN command system focuses on the CinC (representing the player, I guess) and one level below the Corps Commander – the Divisional Commander. To keep things from becoming too complex, the roles of Brigade Commanders, Colonels, Battalion Commanders and everything below is merged into the 'unit'.
Last Hussar	25 May 2020 3:29 a.m. PST
I realise that, but there are a number of brigades historically that are 1 regiment, and I can't but feel having the undivided attention of a GdB as well as the colonel should make a difference.

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