"Chain of Command - Support list Half Tracks" Topic

Unless I have miss read (always possible) I believe all the armoured Half Tracked troop carriers available to the various nations in CoC, come with no driver/crew, or mounted weapons and appear in List Three in each case.

There are various mentions of these needing an allocation of men and weapons from those who travel in them which is fair enough, apart from some nations in the real world providing a driver and others not. However what of those who didn't usually dismount specific weapons like the .50cal on US half tracks.

I think elements of this question have come up in other posts/treads I've been involved in so apologies if that's the case. What I'm asking here is specific as to how people make additions not in List Three.

Using the US as an example. Do you (or should you) actually take a half track from List Three, add a Section from your main Platoon and then add the cost of a .50 cal from List Five along with its five crew? Which seems pretty odd to me if its intended to stay with the Half Track. Not to mention a little crowed!

Please note I'm aware that the various Campaign books have there own variations to those Lists in the original rules. What I'm taking about here is just a pick up game for an evenings entertainment.

Do people just tend to adjust opposing sides by local agreement?

US Halftracks carried a tripod for dismounting the .50 cal. Mounted, it was only intended to be used for AA purposes. Nobody wants to ride in a Halftrack in small arms range of the enemy.

Will try to help here;
Ok, when you buy an M3 or any other vehicle, it comes empty. Exception would be the tanks and the like.

So to man an empty half-track like the M3, you typically have to man that vehicle with a crew…this comes from a squad or a team you either have organically or will have to buy.

To mount a .50 HMG, you will have to buy that team also to be placed in the vehicle. So that will cost you a total of 8 Support points to make that happen. Since the .50 cal team comes w/o a leader, then that becomes an uncommanded vehicle – see paragraph 11.3 in the main rules.

As far as being crowed in the vehicle, well look up information about the vehicle and what it can carry, and not look at the model.

As far as adding stuff to the Support List…sure…why not. I would recommend using the "CoCalulator" to help with which cost it will be.

Hope this helps.

P.

Thanks, redmist, for the clarification, I'd been wondering about it too.
That's a bit cumbersome however, IMO (you lose a lot of room in the HT) and expensive (you can have a Sherman for less than that) : perhaps adding a 1 pt MMG/HMG option vor HT in the support list wpould work better ? (and from what I know of WW2, using the HT's MG as an ad hoc support weapon was not an unheard of tactic in battle)

Yeah that's the kind of thing I was thinking about. It seems to me that the way the lists are as written really don't cover this kind of circumstances.

As you say what's VFM the M2 armed half track or the M4!