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eboracomb Sponsoring Member of TMP10 Apr 2020 2:03 a.m. PST

After the failure of my Kickstarter to fund a plastic SYW kit I have decided to do the range in Metals.
Matt Bickley who designed the amazing 3up for me has agreed to sculpt the range.
I am undecided about a Kickstarter or if I just start releasing figures.
I would greatly appreciate any input on which nation would be best to open with or if any one nation is under represented in the market.
cheers Nick

Duc de Brouilly10 Apr 2020 2:34 a.m. PST

Huzzah! The French and British for me but that's just my own interest.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2020 3:29 a.m. PST

What ever nation you decide to start with, make sure to have cavalry and artillery done quick.
Many ranges end up just having the basic musketeers, then die. People generally don't invest in a range until they can do a complete force.

BillyNM Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2020 3:33 a.m. PST

What scale will this be – 20mm?

eboracomb Sponsoring Member of TMP10 Apr 2020 3:37 a.m. PST

Sorry should have stated 28mm.

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2020 4:51 a.m. PST

Good news!

I agree with Gunfreak otherwise you could end up with a situation like Crusader – great start with some nice infantry figures but no cavalry or artillery.

Instead of a Kickstarter, would it be possible to use a pre-order approach, similar to what many boardgame companies do?

Extrabio1947 Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2020 4:55 a.m. PST

Everybody seems to do Prussia, Austria, and France. Probably the two most under-represented major nations are Russia and Hanover.

But under-representation is probably driven by economics, I.e, lower sales.

France is popular, and the recent release of the SYW French books by Summerfield will probably make it even more so.

Travellera10 Apr 2020 5:08 a.m. PST

Swedish SYW troops are hard to find. Their uniforms are quite similar to their GNW uniforms so adjusting your GNW range might be a way to grow your SYW range quickly

Skeets Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2020 5:36 a.m. PST

French and British would work for me. I have painted London War Room Spanish and Portuguese that are gathering dust. I would really like to put them on the table. If I see a line with more Prussians and Austrians I'll puke.

Costanzo110 Apr 2020 1:40 p.m. PST

I think among the great powers the less represented are Austria and Russia, but the first had a superior role in the war.

18th Century Guy Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2020 5:40 p.m. PST

I like what Costanzo1 said, Austria and Russia. Then you could look at the small German states in the western theater. No one makes figures for them but probably for a good reason, very small forces involved so the sale of said figures would probably be limited. You might get stuck with the big players – Prussia, France, England, and Austria. Then Russia, German states, and maybe something in Italy and/or Spain.
Looking forward to seeing what you come out with.

GamesPoet Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2020 6:57 p.m. PST

Seems that having infantry, cavalry, and artillery all for the same country could be wise.

I like the idea of someone doing the German States, and have an interest in Hanover and France. Not opposed to Austria and Russia, yet less likely to climb on board since my interests are with the others mentioned.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP11 Apr 2020 1:04 a.m. PST

No one makes figures for them but probably for a good reason, very small forces involved so the sale of said figures would probably be limited.

Also hessian and Brunswick uniform are basically the same as Prussian. The differences are very small.
Like hessian cavalry can be made by using prussian dragoons and the infantry are almost completely the same.

Austrians are covered by Front rank if you want them big and chunky and Minden if you want them slim and realistic.
But I assume ebor will be in the same style as the GNW/WSS range, so a little chunkier than say the Perry style, but not as chunky as Front rank.
If I were Ebor, I'd try and get the style close to Black hussar (Perry style)
And I'd make British or Austrian, as black hussar made the strange decision to do French and prussian, they look great, but I know many people have avoided buying them as most want to do French vs British or prussian vs Austrian. And since black hussar don't match
Minden nor Front rank. You can really only use black hussar.

If ebor makes his range match/compliment black hussar, people will probably buy more from both of them. That way he can concentrate on 1 nation(or 2 if he makes hannoverian with the British)

von Winterfeldt11 Apr 2020 11:46 p.m. PST

Whatever nation, please research the topic well – there is excellent information available – and please do battalion guns for all armies.

Tricorne197116 Apr 2020 3:47 p.m. PST

A couple points
Crusader has cavalry and artillery for Prussia and Austria.

Crusader goes well with Foundry and Front Rank.

The only really good Brunswick figure (and I have lots) is the Foundry Prussian Infantry with Swedish cuffs (also useful for a few Prussian line and Frei Korps units.
I'd like to see a dedicated Bavarian figure.

18th Century Guy Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2020 5:07 p.m. PST

So after all these requests/recommendations you should do what you want!

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