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14Bore26 Mar 2020 2:48 p.m. PST

Only a Napoleonic era collector with expansive Russians and Prussians so always thought someday would refight 7YW replacing actual forces with my Napoleonic armies.
Well that time has arrived and whyh not start at the beginning here. At first look it was a shock a small force tackled twice its number but reading most of the Russians never got in the fight so its not as lopsided as it looks.
Map scale is the start but as only have a tablet its going to be a guess. Do have a 12 foot by 6' 7" table to play.
Any helpful tips frpm 7YW aficionados?

Altefritz27 Mar 2020 6:21 a.m. PST

Start from here: link

14Bore27 Mar 2020 6:35 a.m. PST

Yes have as its the only thing to work from. But from that its a fight basically with the small Prussian mixed force of 23 batalions vs 49 Russian, neither has much artillery the Russians would get a mixed heavy 1/2 light 1/2.
Haven't located the small Right wing (fight seems not to include the Left wing at all) cavalry of a mostly Cossacks or if they are involved.
The Russians of the period have 3 battalions the Prussian 2 but adding up the actual forces my 3 battalion Prussian numbers work very well but 2 battalion Russian regiments come out a little weak so thinking adding small jager battalions to some or the Russians.

14Bore30 Mar 2020 9:22 a.m. PST

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In equaling out the Prussians the cavalry regiment are the same but must be smaller than 7yw especially the hussars as the infantry has 24 battalions instead of 22.I have the garrison regiments as landwehr
Russians have 55 infantry battalions and combined the squadrons together to 5 cavalry regiments
Being 1813 everyone forgot to bring those pesky 3pdrs so Prussians only have 16 12pdrs and 1/2 horse battery.
Russians haved a few mixed position/ light but only 1 in action soon.
Starting at the 6am positions, Prussians will get 1st initiative for 2 turns then rolls will determine that.

14Bore30 Mar 2020 9:36 a.m. PST

Couple of other thoughts, the Wald von Norkitten seems reading to be partially swamp and thick so movement should be 1/2, also researching on google earth the river seems fordable on the map and a virtual driving tour the river seems not much more than a creek but area looked swampy as the map shows so thinling any movement within 2 inches is 1/2. On the other end of the opening csvaly engagement there is a dried pond ( in a emergency quarantine move took a blue construction paper and painted it green leaving some blue to show swamp. Since a cavalry regiment is across it guess its transferable but will consider it 1/2 movement no charging. The other light green is swamp same thing.

14Bore30 Mar 2020 3:12 p.m. PST

Actually getting the troops on the board makes it more obvious what is going on. So at this 6am position the Prussians lined up seemingly did nothing for awhile. So as per Empire Napoleonic rules this gives the Russians 1 grand tactical move.

14Bore02 Apr 2020 4:20 p.m. PST

The thin Prussian line is bending but not breaking with help of my die rolls

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But the Prussians of what would be Count zu Dohna's force is about to be hit by Russians crawling through the Wald Norkitten off camera to their left.
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I used Count zu Dohna's force further down the forest than done in 1757 buying some time.
At the start the Prussian cavalry proved totally ineffective only forcing 1 Cossack regt off the board.
Dice are fickle things.

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