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Desert Fox24 Mar 2020 4:40 p.m. PST

After a long time away, I am looking to get back into 15mm Napoleonics. When I first dabbled in 15mm Napoleonics I primarily painted Old Glory with a few ABs and Minifigs thrown in. But I have to admit, I am not a particularly big fan of Old Glory's infantry. I no longer like the posses and I am finding them difficult to paint. I love ABs but they are too detailed for me, especially at 15mm. My OCD says if a figure has it sculpted on it, I have to paint it. And I want spend more time gaming and less time painting. Minifigs I also like, they are easy to paint and there is something about figures in units have all the same pose I like. But yo get them I have to order overseas so I am at the mercy of the exchange rate. Not bad now, but who knows what the future holds.

What do people who have experience painting BH and BM say?

BH look very clean, the range seems complete, at least for the major powers. Have they held up over time? Are the molds still producing crisp castings, or will I be disappointed?

Blue Moon also looks interesting. The (relatively) uniform poses and raised details look like they would be way to paint. What do fellow TMPers say?

Thank you in advance for responding!

Neli Creoruska24 Mar 2020 4:51 p.m. PST

BH are much slimmer, fine castings. They're also closer to 15mm.

BM are larger ( closer to 18mm) and more robust. Their anatomy is exaggerated,I presume for ease of painting.

They're both nice. Comes down to taste.

Personal logo Buckeye AKA Darryl Supporting Member of TMP24 Mar 2020 5:06 p.m. PST

Also, what country or countries are you looking at collecting? That might make a difference depending on what company is offering what figures. I am liking most of the Blue Moon figures I have. I do not have any BH.

14Bore24 Mar 2020 6:13 p.m. PST

Have them all I think but lately getting Blue Moon, easy to paint.

madcam2us24 Mar 2020 7:17 p.m. PST

The problem with both lines are lack of completion for any of the powers. We were promised more of the troops from BM but haven't had any in a while. The swords on most of the cavalry are poorly cast/sculpted so they flop or are easily broken. However their equipment stacks up very well.

BH are truer 15mm and again lack completeness but also suffer from older molds.

I am planning on buying samples of the BM marching Grenz and compare with ones from BH.

I still feel the OG lines contain some real gems notably the Russians and Prussian infantry line.

Also check out Campaign Game Miniatures. I like their mounted much better than BH and BM.

Cavcmdr24 Mar 2020 7:42 p.m. PST

I would like to buy more French BH.
Can't find them in the UK.

Anyone help?

John Tyson24 Mar 2020 9:10 p.m. PST

Desert Fox, I live in Arizona and order MiniFigs from the UK. I just prefer 15mm Minifigs to all others. Only one pose I don't like and that is the most exaggerated leaning forward advancing pose. Unfortunately, the French center infantry figs are in that exaggerated leaning pose. The Russian, British, Austrian, and Prussian infantry poses are nice. However, I do buy my generals from Blue Moon and AB. Much better general figures than MiniFigs.

Here are 15mm MiniFig French grenadiers with an AB general.
(Other figures in background are the no longer available MiniFig 2nd generation figures.)

Allan F Mountford25 Mar 2020 2:54 a.m. PST

I would suggest you look at Lancashire Games. Fairly comprehensive range and a good quality gaming figure.

Durban Gamer25 Mar 2020 5:47 a.m. PST

I stick with 15mm, don't like supporting the scale creep of 18mm. Agree that the Minifigs Naps are very nice.

Robert le Diable25 Mar 2020 7:30 a.m. PST

Another appreciation of the older Minifigs, alas it seems too late. Their aspect seems to me comparable with, say, Baron Lejeune's paintings of the period. The newer, sprinting figures seem far too stylised, even balletic. Again, for command figures, AB or BH, though with some of the personality figures the size means I've had difficulties finding horses which look anything near the correct size. Old Glory 15s are variable in quality, though with a good variety of postures. Horses in this range, similarly, are very variable in quality, though these may have been revised in recent years. It does indeed all depend on personal taste (and manufacturers' pricing).

Marc at work25 Mar 2020 8:29 a.m. PST

I like my older Minifigs but they are sooo small now when up against an AB figure, so I imagine they will be swamped by Blue Moon.

And range completion is a curse of our hobby – the lesser parts of the range just don't sell as well, so there is less desire to make them I appreciate

14Bore26 Mar 2020 3:57 a.m. PST

Packing up the board yesterday looked close to a Minifig musketeer with a Blue Moon officer. He is a bit taller but acceptable that he is not armed the same so no difference except height.

Frostie26 Mar 2020 11:13 a.m. PST

Desert Fox,

I have literally hundred, probably well over a thousand Old Glory Napoleonics.

Several hundred are painted, the entire Baden contribution to the Hreane Armee and at least a brigade of Westphalians plus many more painted and unpainted that I wish to sell. pm me if interested

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian26 Mar 2020 3:25 p.m. PST

I just held an Old Glory and Blue Moon figure side by side. The Blue Moon base is slightly thicker but otherwise they seem to look fine together. BM detail is a little sharper.

I have some BH in my collection, and they tend to be 'thinner' than the Old Glory (which is roughly 90% of the collection). I prefer OG, BH and BM over Minifig, but I have hundreds of those too.

Fred Mills27 Mar 2020 3:38 a.m. PST

Of the two, I prefer BM, even though they are a whisker larger and a bit thicker, more like 18mm, as others have stated. BH are smaller and I find more vulnerable to breakage (plumes, bayonets, muskets). Both are very nice, but they are also not easily inter-mixed, unless a bit cleverly – e.g., a small drummer from a small line on a command stand, or grenadiers from a larger line alongside fusilier companies from a smaller one.

The bulk of my collection is OG, with generous smatterings of others, but my new go-to is Campaign Game Miniatures out of Barcelona. Dermot is excellent to deal with, the figures are terrific, communications are fast and courteous, and the line is growing all the time.

YogiBearMinis Supporting Member of TMP27 Mar 2020 5:01 a.m. PST

Aren't Campaign Game Miniatures the old Fantassin line? They were supposed to be close to AB in quality but less in price, and more importantly compatible in size and poses.

I had always heard that the top of the heap was AB, with Fantassin just below; Old Glory had a complete line though variable a bit in quality and scale creep; Minifigs was in its own group because of style but was also a relatively complete range; Essex similar to Minifigs in how I would describe their uniqueness but complete.

What DO people think of Essex's Napoleonic range? I am very familiar with Essex generally, but had not heard anyone discuss it in a long while.

Fred Mills27 Mar 2020 8:04 a.m. PST

No, CGM is separate.And they're terrific, IMHO.

Though it has been difficult to keep track (and I gather there have been some legal issues), I think Fantassin/Warmodelling is now being produced by Stonewall Miniatures? There have been TMP threads on this, and I am sure someone else knows the business history better than me.

RE Essex, I like them just fine, but they are all a bit well fed and short. Very easy to paint, however, and look great once done. (I like their ACW figures more than the Nappy ones.) A key difference tends to be bayonets, which are far shorter than the pike-like behemoths that grace many modern miniatures' muskets. Also, many of them are deeply bent at the knees, reinforcing the sense of shortness.

John Edmundson28 Mar 2020 2:40 p.m. PST

The other question of course in this sort of situation is how the horses and guns (particularly the horses) compare.

The Tyn Man30 Mar 2020 4:36 a.m. PST

What armies are you planning to paint? I may be able to help you with 2nd & 3rd Gen Minifigs if you like, at a much better price than ordering from the UK.

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