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Battlefront WWII at Council, Part Two

Americans battle through Germans and hedgerows.

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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Mar 2020 9:56 p.m. PST

"The American Medium Tank M4 became the second most numerous tank produced in WWII after the T-34, and the first if you count the T-34-85 separately. This record did not come easy. It is often said that this result was reached by converting the American car industry to war footing, but there was only one automotive giant that built Sherman tanks: Ford. The M4 was assembled at specially built tank arsenals, as well as railway car companies and steel foundries.

There was a great variety among types of this tank as well. There were five main variants with four different engines. The M4A4 version was the second most numerous, but the Americans hardly used any of them.

As early as the summer of 1941 it was clear to William Knudsen, the head of the Office of Production Management, that using only the Continental R975 in medium tanks will be untenable. The appetites of the American and British militaries only grew. Production of 1000 tanks per month were planned in April of 1941. This number doubled by July. At this scale the supply of radial engines would simply not be enough…"
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Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2020 1:17 a.m. PST

If you count 34/85 separately. Then you have to break the Sherman into like 10 different models too and then suddenly the Sherman is very far from the second most produced tank.

Murvihill21 Mar 2020 5:16 a.m. PST

He acknowledged the Sherman was number two, no need to dissect his facts.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2020 6:25 a.m. PST

He tried to make it sound like it was really nr 1, by splitting the t34, but not splitting up the Sherman who was one of the most varied of all ww2 tanks.

Wackmole9 Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2020 6:28 a.m. PST

The really test of a tank is longevity. Which of two tanks were still in active service in 1970's.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2020 7:29 a.m. PST


Fred Cartwright21 Mar 2020 7:35 a.m. PST

Which of two tanks were still in active service in 1970's.

That would be both of them! I couldn't tell you off hand which went out of service first, but it would have been pretty close. The Chilean M-60 Sherman variant went out of service in the early 2,000's. Anyone know when/if the T34/85 went out of service?

Wackmole9 Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2020 9:02 a.m. PST

So they both win

Cuprum221 Mar 2020 10:16 a.m. PST
d88mm1940 Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2020 11:24 a.m. PST

Wow. Attacking a tank with burning bushes…

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2020 12:12 p.m. PST

Paraguayans still have Shermans as their only Tank unit…


Legion 421 Mar 2020 12:12 p.m. PST

Interesting article !

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP22 Mar 2020 3:50 p.m. PST

Glad you enjoyed it my good friend!. (smile)


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