"The Most Incoherent Star Wars Movie Ever Made" Topic

"In one of the very few moments in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker where the action slows down for a second, the beloved droid C-3PO pauses to appreciate the heroic ensemble. "I'm just taking one last look at my friends," he says. That kind of naked nostalgia is on display for every frantic minute of J. J. Abrams's new film, the ninth and supposedly conclusive entry in the newly dubbed "Skywalker Saga" that George Lucas began with the first Star Wars in 1977. The gang's all here—every new and old favorite character one could imagine—for an experience so convoluted and overstuffed that I wondered whether the whole cast would board a flying kitchen sink for the final battle…"
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Armand

Have to agree with a lot that article said.

Damon.

I think he tried to squeeze two movies into one.

Abrams has always had a hard time with coherency. When you have to publish comic books or webisodes to establish continuity between two films, that's not really a good sign.

The business with C3PO bidding farewell is a sound dramatic idea, but misassigned and misplaced.

Imagine at the end of the prequels, Padme has had the twins, and while despondent, is still very much alive. She knows she must leave the children and the droids and go into hiding, or worse. She introduces the droids to the children, then wipes all references to the events of the prequels from the droids memories. As they purge, she says, "goodbye old friends."

When they've reset, she uses their emergency override codes to compel the droids to recognize the twins, and serve them however they can, knowing that the droids must also be separated and hidden, and may never see the twins. It seems a forlorn gesture, but…

Abrams doesn't do movies: he does very long trailers. But this time, he was stuck. And in fairness, all the sins of the previous eight+ movies caught up with him. If you kill off interesting characters and replace them with dull ones, no one gets too worked up when they're in trouble. When you spend eight movies not doing much to develop alien worlds and cultures, your big "everyone comes to the rescue" scene falls flat. And when you don't want to offend anyone--ever--you can never articulate why the "Resistance" is worth dying for.

I understand he wanted to do two movies. Some bits might have been done better, and he would have put off the dread day when he actually had to write and film and ending. But the brutal truth is, he didn't have enough actual plot for the length of film he wound up with. Everything else was fluff.

Still beats the Prequel Trilogy, though.

Glup!…

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Armand

Total disaster. The Sequels were just plain bad. I am not entirely sure Star Wars will recover without a major foundation change back to what made it work.

It may not even be salvageable. Let's face it. They made 3 films worse than the Prequels and drove what should have been a high-flying franchise nearly 6 feet under with horrendous writing, telephoned acting, and just plain bad political pushing.

Disney might have a chance with an Old Republic series, but wow, I mean it can't get much worse.

Let the past die.

youtu.be/moSFlvxnbgk

So… Star Wars is dead…???

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Armand

I think that The Mandalorian shows that the franchise has great potential still, with the right writing and direction.

Thanks!.

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Armand