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Tuck Frump17 Feb 2020 3:13 a.m. PST

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Frostie17 Feb 2020 5:42 a.m. PST

You could look at Twilight of the Sun King, they have rules for TYW.

They are on the Pike and Shot Society page and there are a few explanation videos on line.

They look interesting

Tuck Frump17 Feb 2020 7:25 a.m. PST

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Prince Alberts Revenge17 Feb 2020 7:34 a.m. PST

There is a set called Tercios that gives some good treatment to the various battlefield formations without getting too granular or clunky. Tercios is for the TYW period and they have an ECW supplement. Simon Miller's ECW variant of To The Strongest does the same for the English Civil War. Both are element-based (one base is a unit) but both are pretty flexible in that regard.

Prince Alberts Revenge17 Feb 2020 7:38 a.m. PST

To answer your question, I think it's very different to the SYW. There was quite a bit of evolution of fighting formations going on with different schools of thought pushing their concepts. Cavalry were also undergoing changes too.

Tuck Frump17 Feb 2020 7:49 a.m. PST

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Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Feb 2020 8:28 a.m. PST

Well, if you play Pike & Shotte it is just Black Powder tweaked. I know little about that period but our games don't feel very different from SYW/Napoleonics using that game system.

Probably more a reason not to play that system than a mark against TYW though.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2020 11:11 a.m. PST

Big battle pike & shot feels a bit like Age of Reason. Skirmish pike & shot is nearer late medieval/Renaissance.

I think in 28mm P&S, you might be better off foraging and storming villages than refighting Breitenfield, but many people disagree with me.

mumbasa17 Feb 2020 1:32 p.m. PST

link Poke around in Steven Balagan's blog. You can get a free copy of Tilly's Very Bad Day which is a lot of fun to play. He has other battle scenarios, too.
John

Korvessa17 Feb 2020 7:03 p.m. PST

I have never tried it, but "By fire & sword" looks interesting – albeit I think it is after TYW a tad.

balagan18 Feb 2020 12:42 a.m. PST

Thanks for the mention John/mumbasa

If anyone is interested in Tilly's Very Bad Day then …
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Download Tilly's Very Bad Day – Fast Play Rules for the 30 Years War

Prince Alberts Revenge18 Feb 2020 7:33 p.m. PST

Dogtail: I think most periods have the potential to be interesting or boring depending on what you like and how it's presented. The TYW, IMO, is no exception. It's a period of transition and evolving doctrine. There are big personalities too. I love Pike and Shot but I admit that some of the politics, shifting alliances and strategic level aspects confuse me regarding the TYW.

Prince Alberts Revenge18 Feb 2020 7:40 p.m. PST

If I play the TYW with DBR, I'd probably find it plays similar to DBA/M ancients and medievals. Same goes with utilizing a "broad brush" ruleset like Black Powder/P&S/Hail Caesar. Alot of people find dark ages combat less than compelling but if you use a ruleset that is catered to specifically capturing it's feel you may come away with a different opinion (I love Dux Bellorum, it makes shieldwalls fun for me). It comes.down to how your rules present it and if that presentation is your cup of tea.

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