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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP14 Feb 2020 9:18 p.m. PST

"12 failures by Napoleon Bonaparte. Two centuries after Waterloo and the final collapse of Napoleonic France, the debate does not stop, to whom does the main merit in the common victory belongs. In a series of publications "Military Review" ("Waterloo. Point of no return ") noted a very special strategic role played by the Russian emperor Alexander I in overthrowing the Corsican upstart. And the author is not going to refute the fact that British capital was behind him.

The last to defeat the French emperor on the battlefield were Gebhard Leberecht von Blucher, 73-year-old Prussian field marshal and Napoleon's 46-year-old 1st Duke Wellington, British field marshal Arthur Wellesley…"
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BillyNM14 Feb 2020 10:03 p.m. PST


von Winterfeldt In the TMP Dawghouse15 Feb 2020 12:57 a.m. PST

a terrible article full of mistakes

see comments here


Murvihill15 Feb 2020 3:47 a.m. PST

Poor translation may have a bit to do with it.

C M DODSON15 Feb 2020 5:49 a.m. PST

Surely, not again!


JMcCarroll Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2020 6:37 a.m. PST

Whom keep their promise?

Brian Smaller16 Feb 2020 11:50 a.m. PST

I think Napoleon defeated Napoleon.

Personal logo McLaddie Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2020 12:05 p.m. PST

I am really unsure why this is even an either/or question as neither one could have defeated Napoleon alone.

Even with 30,000 Prussians, Wellington said that Waterloo was 'a near-run thing.'

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2020 2:50 p.m. PST



Brechtel198 Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2020 3:54 p.m. PST

They both defeated Napoleon-it was an allied victory. Neither could do it alone.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2020 10:17 a.m. PST



MiniPigs17 Feb 2020 10:39 a.m. PST

I think Napoleon defeated Napoleon.

Which, I might add, was very hard to do and proves how talented Napoleon truly was.:P

138SquadronRAF Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2020 10:55 a.m. PST

An Allied victory.

USAFpilot17 Feb 2020 3:59 p.m. PST

Who really knows; the answer may be lost to time. Both brought considerable forces to the battle, so I'd guess both and maybe even some unknown officers or soldiers made key contributions at the right place and time which had great impact on the outcome.

42flanker17 Feb 2020 10:39 p.m. PST

I'm Spartacus!

grahambeyrout18 Feb 2020 10:21 a.m. PST

It was a joint Allied-Prussian victory. The credit can be equally shared, although as some have said, French tactical mistakes add a lot to do with it.

RudyNelson20 Feb 2020 7:09 p.m. PST

Wellington was the anvil. Boucher was the hammer.
Both were needed to break Napoleon.

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