Mr J1970 | 09 Feb 2020 10:41 a.m. PST |
Hi, Does anybody have links or information on what the Afghan Regulars were wearing in 1919, have tried googlefoo, but references appear to be far and few between. I seem to remember somewhere that they were perhaps using ex WW1 Turkish surplus with differing headgear. I'm after 28mm, am aware of Tiger Miniatures link YouTube Pathe news clip with Afghan regulars drilling, a somewhat motley crew. Approx. 4.57 through the clip. They look similar to WW1 Austrians in Greatcoats. Was just wondering if there were any options this side of the pond. Was thinking of using Woodbine Designs' Turks as a starting point and add new heads. Any sources or insights appreciated, many thanks. |
Prince Rupert of the Rhine | 09 Feb 2020 11:18 a.m. PST |
Try Empress miniatures Jazz age imperialism range which covers the NWF between the wars in 28mm link I'm pretty sure codes AFG 15 through to AFG 18 are meant to be Afghan regulars
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Mr J1970 | 09 Feb 2020 12:30 p.m. PST |
Were they THAT irregular? look more like village militia to me. Thanks for the picture though, and yes I will be using the excellent Empress range extensively. As well as the Woodbine Designs Middle East WW1 Brits and Indian troops. Hoping to have a what if element to the games with the Copplestone Castings Bolsheviks adding a bit of support to the Afghans. |
Mr J1970 | 09 Feb 2020 12:34 p.m. PST |
Did find this which is the most I can find at the moment link The Afghan infantryman in the photo looks a lot more in line with Turkish ex WW1 dress. |
Prince Rupert of the Rhine | 09 Feb 2020 12:49 p.m. PST |
I found the same photo at the National army museum. worth reading the accompanying text. "At the time of the 3rd Afghan War (1919) the Afghan regular army consisted of 21 cavalry regiments, 78 infantry battalions and 280 breech-loading artillery pieces. Around half of the regular units were stationed on the frontier with British India. About half of the infantry were armed with small-bore repeating rifles. The remainder used single shot Martini-Henrys. Few of these units had a regular service uniform. Many soldiers wore their local dress alongside their equipment. As well as the army, the Afghan Amir could also call on around 10,000 khassadars (tribal militia) and many thousands of trans-border tribesmen." link Seems despite the term regular uniforms where very much un-uniform as was armament except for units in Kabul. |
Hal Thinglum | 09 Feb 2020 2:42 p.m. PST |
Do the Jazz Age Imperialism figures match well with Copplestone's WWI British and Turks? What other manufacturers would match well with Copplestone? The reason I ask is that I have lots of Copplestone British, Turks, and Indians. Thanks – Hal |
Richard Brooks | 09 Feb 2020 3:47 p.m. PST |
| 10 Feb 2020 9:57 a.m. PST |
Thanks Richard, yes they're nice figures but the exorbitant handling charges here in the UK make US figures quite a pricey option but stylistically they are more along the lines of what I had in mind. A mish mash of hand me down WW1 vintage, which you can imagine after the war, many nations would be all too happy to unload. Empress minis and Paul Hicks sculpting especially are outstanding so hoping they read this and add a pack or two more to the Afghan regulars. Maybe a command pack in nearly full dress Turkish hand me downs and a firing loading pack in semi regular/ local dress to mix and match with the existing packs of militia/ regulars. |
Mr J1970 | 10 Feb 2020 10:58 a.m. PST |
Empress and Woodbine Designs appear to match ok, Copplestone are relatively larger figures. Should be ok in separate units. Appreciate though that it's an extremely subjective choice, and all in the eye of the beholder. |
Legion 4 | 13 Feb 2020 2:33 p.m. PST |
Change the rifles to AKs and some RPGs. They would kind of look like they do today I think. |