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Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP02 Jan 2020 9:12 p.m. PST

I have been used to getting help in setting up my units when I buy a TSATF variant, but The Sword, Cross and Gold variant for the Conquistadores and Aztecs gives only the sketchiest of suggestions: twelve man units for the Spanish and twenty for the Aztecs and Spanish native allies. I'm new to the period and would appreciate some guidance as to what proportion of arquebusers, crossbowmen and swords men should make up the twelve man unit. Similarly, how many Aztec Jaguar, Eagle and Arrow Knights to include in each twenty man unit, or should each be in its own unit? I'd greatly appreciate any guidance from players familiar with this period and rules. Thanks!

John Leahy03 Jan 2020 6:42 a.m. PST

Hi, I would think that the units would be only one troop type. Since there would be a lot of close combat have crossbowmen in a swordsman unit would not be beneficial.

Probably 25-33% of special Aztec units. I played these a long time ago and had fun. I used revell 1/72 figs. Still need to finish my Maya.



Liliburlero Supporting Member of TMP05 Jan 2020 4:33 p.m. PST

Hi Nick,

I asked Jay Stribling of the Jackson Gamers about this. Here's his reply:

"If I recall correctly, Mark Stevens used TSATF organization, at least for the Native forces. Native Infantry, fighting as allies or enemies of Spain, were 20-man units, mounted singly. There was no native cavalry.

The Spaniards (I think) had 12-16 infantry figures per unit, or 9-12 mounted men. There were a few men with cutting weapons or swords and shields, but most were armed with musket or arquebus. Mark used whatever figures he could get, especially for the Spanish."


"The Aztec Jaguars, Eagle and Arrow Knights were each in solid 20-man units.

Light artillery pieces were individual guns with four gunners."

Hope this helps.

Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP06 Jan 2020 7:39 a.m. PST

Nothing like getting it straight from the horse's mouth. Thanks!

SgtGuinness Supporting Member of TMP27 Jan 2020 3:48 a.m. PST

Nick, this sounds like a very interesting project!

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