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Paskal Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse28 Dec 2019 1:50 p.m. PST

Good morning all ,

First of all, a good year to everyone and above all very good health in 2020 !


The 25 mm Napoleonic range from Old Glory is weird, but I love the figures from this manufacture …

Also I realized that the 25 mm Napoleonic Old Glory range did not offer fuzileers or foot chasseurs for the Russian infantry of 1805 1807 and no fuzileers, nor free jaegers or schutzen for the Prussian infantry of 1813 1815?

I think that one of these days I would make the usual transformations with my " Green Stuff ",but only when I had the courage or rather an irresistible desire to do it !

While waiting as I am more up to date I would like to have on this forum documentations to be able to carry out the necessary transformations …

For the fuzileers of the Russian infantry of 1805 1807 I will take as a base the figures of the reference RXI-42…

For the hunters of the Russian infantry of 1805 1807 I will take as a base the figures of the the reference RXI- 34…

And for the fuzileers, free jaegers or schutzen of the Prussian infantry from 1813 1815, I will take as a base the figures of the reference PXI-02…

I would also like to be told if the uniforms of RXA-01 and RXA-02 are correct for Russian artillery for 1805 1807 ?

Ah I forgot and for the Russian Imperial Guard of 1805 1807, what uniformological differences with the troops of the line, that small details easy to execute with "green stuff", I suppose? thank you.

Still another thing, the French heavy cavalry and dragoons figures are for what period …

And for the 1813-1815 prussian "chasseurs cheval volontaires", what uniformological differences with their Hussar comrades of the same period or of their regiment when they are not attached to a hussar regiment ?

Thank you for your help, your informations will be very useful …

Paskal

Camcleod30 Dec 2019 12:31 a.m. PST

Paskal

The Hussar Volunteer Jager Detachments of 1815 wore Hussar uniforms but in green and some with other minor differences.

See the 'mont-saint-jean' site
link
He shows Jagers in Hussar Regts. 3, 4, 5, 6 & 11.

Bowden's 'Armies At Waterloo' says the 9th Hussars also had a Jager Detachment. And they were very small – only from 12 to 70 men.

Cliff

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse30 Dec 2019 12:48 a.m. PST

Thank you Camcleod, I absolutely have to find the answers to the informations I asked because the 25 mm Old Glory range is really incomplete, which is weird for such a rich period.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP30 Dec 2019 8:34 a.m. PST

Paskal,

Hope this helps. It is from David Nash's The Prussian Army: 1808-1815, an old Almark Publications book from 1972.

And for the fuzileers, free jaegers or schutzen of the Prussian infantry from 1813 1815, I will take as a base the figures of the reference PXI-02…

Personally for the Prussian fusiliers, volunteer jagers (freiwilligenjager), and regular jagers and schutzen (same type of troops, just differently designated), I would use PXI-03, Prussian line advancing rather than PXI-02, since all of these troops were primarily used as skirmishers. PXI-02 would be better for the formed musketeer battalions.

Anyway, here are some details from Nash:

1. Prussian fusiliers. As you know, these were the third battalion of the 12 regular line regiments. As such, the main differences were that the fusiliers carried the cartridge box on a waist belt positioned over their stomach, with no decorations, except for the Leib Regiment which had a five pointed star; the short sabre was suspended by a shoulder belt; and all belts and straps were blackened. The different location for the cartridge box means you'll have to clip the box off the hip and model a new one over the stomach with green stuff.

2. Volunteer (Freiwilligen) Jagers (FWJ). These "gentlemen" volunteers were formed into small detachments, normally of 100-150 men (largest was Guard Jager Battalion's of 237 and smallest was Silesian Schutzen Battalion's of only 39). Uniform was similar to parent regiment/battalion but was a holly-green Kollet or Litewka. The FWJ of the hussar regiments wore a Litewka with facings and buttons as on the hussar dolman. All belting was blackened. Some detachments had a waist cartridge box and others had a hip cartridge box. Since the individuals supplied their own uniforms, they varied among the various detachments.

3. Regular Jagers/Schutzen. There were only three regular jager battalions -- Nr. 1, Garde Jager, Nr. 2, East Prussian Jager, and Nr. 3, Silesian Schutzen. The first two had coats of dark green with scarlet collar, shoulder straps, and "Swedish" cuffs. The Silesian's collar and "Brandenburg" cuffs in black. All belts and straps were blackened and the cartridge box was suspended with a shoulder belt on the right hip, like the musketeers.

Overall, you should be able to use the regular Prussian line castings (from PXI-03, with command from PXI-01) for all these units. Your only real challenge will be in removing the suspended hip cartridge box from those figures which will be used as fusiliers and Silesian schutzen and replacing it with a waist mounted box.

If you ever find a copy of Nash's book, I would snap it up. It is still the best small volume concerning the post 1808 Prussian Army.

Jim

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse30 Dec 2019 12:20 p.m. PST

Good evening Jim,

It is true that for the third rank of the musketeers battalions, the fuzileers, Jaegers and Schutzen, PXI-03, the Prussian line is more realistic than PXI-02, because all these troops were mainly used as skirmishers, but I would like that of the March Attack poses, to have something uniform …

However I may be using the current figurines for skirmishers … It is true that it will not be complicated to transform the musketeers into fuzileers, jaeger or schutzen … There is also the problem of their respective bayonets and sabers , different from those of the musketeers.

And for the Russians of 1805/1807 what documentation apart from the ospreys ..?

MrZorro11 Feb 2020 9:40 a.m. PST

I do not know much about OG's 25mm but I just started collecting OG's 15mm Napoleonics and wish they had Line infantry shooting, they are all marching or advancing, now I need to find suitable shooting minis that combine well with those. Any advice?

P.S. Are Old Glory Miniatures, Old Glory 15.com and Old Glory 25mm.com the same company?

dantheman Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2020 7:07 p.m. PST

MrZorro:

They are not the same company. Old Glory 25s have their own 15mm range called Blue Moon.

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