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Tango0130 Nov 2019 8:38 p.m. PST

"Illegal armed groups are opportunistic by nature. They usually start their operations and recruit followers in countries where there is poverty, corruption, religious conflict or ethnic strife, and where the security forces are unable to keep the public safe and illegal formations under control.

The rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS) in the Middle East was a textbook example of this trend. Since the occupation of Iraq by US forces in 2003, the region has been stuck in a vicious cycle of conflict, sectarianism and regime change. It is in the shadows of this crumbling landscape that ISIL first began to emerge, nourished by the increasing frailty and incompetency of Arab states in revolt or at war…"
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Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2019 11:00 p.m. PST

And, North America, sadly…….

M4rtinFierro01 Dec 2019 12:05 p.m. PST

North America? Where?

Tango0101 Dec 2019 3:29 p.m. PST


Mi amigo Maldonado… sos Argentino?… tu nombre is John o es una traduccion de Juan?…


M4rtinFierro01 Dec 2019 6:21 p.m. PST

Mi madre era inglesa y soy argentino — que no fue nada cómodo en 1982.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2019 7:51 p.m. PST

USA. Probably some in Canada as well.

A woman was just busted the other day for taking a trip and leaving money and gold ($30,000+) in the Middle East for relatives, in support of the ISIS/ISIL cause.

Others wanting to travel there, suspected of similar financial support, or even actively plotting attacks in the USA have been busted in the last few months/years. Lots of them are here apparently, and that's just the tip of the iceberg I suspect, since I'll bet 90%+ are still under the radar, waiting to strike, and/or are better at providing financial aid more covertly.

M4rtinFierro02 Dec 2019 12:02 p.m. PST

Ooh, suspects. Scary.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP04 Dec 2019 4:35 a.m. PST

If by "suspects" you mean people bent on aiding and abetting, AND/OR actually carrying out mass murder, then yes, they can be "scary".

There are many dead in the USA from crazed jihadi attacks, scores of them who have been injured, and many here who swear allegiance to, or attempt to aid ISIS/ISIL, or even carry out attacks on their own.

The San Bernardino attack comes immediately to mind, as does the Boston Bombing (the younger brother is now suspected of several more murders apparently, that previously went unsolved), and some beheadings in the USA.

Thankfully, many of the numerous, sub-average intelligence level jihadis are caught before they can commit their heinous acts. Many, many are in prison, thankfully, due to excellent intel and police work done by hard-working Americans bent on stopping them.

Tango0109 Dec 2019 12:22 p.m. PST

Mi amigo M4tin Fierro… gracias por la respuesta… intuyo que tu viejo es o era argentino… te comprendo… uno de mis abuelos era Ingles y me crié con él (junto a mis otros abuelos)… mi esposa es Irlandesa… todo en 1982 también… nada fácil como vos decís…

Un verdadero gusto en tenerte aqui…

Fuerte abrazo
Raúl (Armand)

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