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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian30 Nov 2019 7:51 a.m. PST

Do you find it enjoyable to peruse army lists for miniature wargaming?

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2019 8:31 a.m. PST

Yes. I owned five Field of Glory army books before I even got the rules. Which I really only bought because it was really cheap at a used book store.

T Andrews30 Nov 2019 8:32 a.m. PST

Yes, very much so!
For Ancients I like FoG-type lists that define the main army, ex.: a legion, and types/numbers of allies.
For Napoleonics I like lists that include nations/numbers of allies for a campaign ex.: Peninsular Campaign for a given year.
For WWII and more recent, I like typical force lists (whatever size) that include support elements available.

Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut30 Nov 2019 8:33 a.m. PST

Oh, absolutely.

Personal logo x42brown Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2019 8:35 a.m. PST

Yes

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USAFpilot30 Nov 2019 8:45 a.m. PST

Of course; the megalomaniac in me likes to see how great generals organized their armies. Fun to think about how I would construct the perfect army.

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Nov 2019 8:47 a.m. PST

Totally with Ancients. I have all the FOG books and still pour over them. Those books are marvelous I say, just marvelous!
Never played or owned the game.

Regards
Russ Dunaway

RudyNelson30 Nov 2019 8:50 a.m. PST

Yes. Reading a new set of rules which need some refined lists.

Bigest recent disappointment were the historical Kings of War. You could have any troop type that the country fielded in the same army. For example Egypt can field chariots, pikemen and Saracen Mameluke. Awful

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2019 10:21 a.m. PST

Now that I think about it, FOG:R "Trade and Treachery" is in my truck right now- I was reading it in carline at school.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only enthusiastic AL reader!

Corporal Fagen30 Nov 2019 11:45 a.m. PST

yes definitely

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2019 12:08 p.m. PST

Yes, all the time.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2019 12:11 p.m. PST

"Army lists" in the sense of troops permitted or required under a particular set of rules? Great Heavens no! Real orders of battle, certainly.

Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2019 1:51 p.m. PST

Definitely. They are a good resource to see what an army consisted of.

RudyNelson30 Nov 2019 1:51 p.m. PST

When I got a copy of FOG Napoleonics, I sat down and designed army lists for the Latin American Wars of Independence, US war of 1812, and other smaller wars like the First Carlist War.

Personal logo PaulCollins Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2019 1:57 p.m. PST

Yes. It kind of raises my interest level in areas I most definitely don't need to start collecting.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Nov 2019 2:22 p.m. PST

No. As Robert piepenbrink, yes for actual OOB. Even for fictional armies, I would rather read the canon (or even fluff) rather than the wargame stats.

Perris070730 Nov 2019 2:33 p.m. PST

Yes. Still reading WRG 7th edition lists.

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Nov 2019 3:36 p.m. PST

Perris0707, I still read those also.

von Schwartz30 Nov 2019 4:58 p.m. PST

For the few set of rules that I actually have historical data for, the rules give a fairly accurate ratio of the various troops types. Of course OOBs are much more accurate but for a rough estimate, they're not that bad.

JimSelzer30 Nov 2019 8:47 p.m. PST

very much so

UshCha01 Dec 2019 2:32 a.m. PST

Even I admit I don't read army lists for fun. Why would you? Ours are based as best we can on real data but while informative I don't see them as fun. Reference yes, can I have more than 3 bridge layers and who can have an engineer vehicle with them and so on.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2019 9:16 p.m. PST

Indeed, I enjoy learning how a rules author translates Historical Armies into games list. ditto to Russ. Great booklets.

I am just now studying the army lists in Bataille empire.

Stoppage03 Dec 2019 2:40 a.m. PST

Army Lists give a good indication of where the rules author is trying to go.

And also if you should get off their bus if they (the rules, nor the author) are not to your particular taste.

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