"Longbows and big boots." Topic

Hello everyone,

For an army of the WOTR, apart Essex Miniatures, which manufactory makes beautiful 28 mm mouted longbowmen figurines (and also in their dismounted version) in livery coat with the big boots that had to wear this type of longbowmen?

Thank you.

Good question, but I don't think many do.

Crusader Miniatures has 8 longbowmen, 3 of which have boots.

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in livery coat with the big boots that had to wear this type of longbowmen?

Why did mounted longbowmen have to wear big boots?

Perry plastics has mounted longbowmen:

link

Not sure about the boots.

Greenstuff might be your answer.

Big boots in the 15th Century? And you thought that bloke who won Waterloo invented the welly…

MajorB if by "big boots" Paskal meant riding boots (thigh high boots functioning like more modern chaps.) It is because horse hair against more tender skin is not comfortable. Also they would fold down the leather to give another layer of marginal protection to the shin. Being step on or kick by someone wearing medieval footwear is not the same as modern combat boots or even sneakers.

The archers in the Burgundian "Master WA's" prints wear big riding-boots – link lowest ilustration; so do various non-archer horsemen in the German Hausbuch Wolfegg – see link

I presume these are the kind of thing Paskal means.

The English archer at bottom left in link, a scene from the "Beauchamp Pageant", wears turned-down boots that are not as long as the other styles mentioned, but might perhaps indicate that he's a dismounted horseman. I can't immediately think of any other English evidence, though.

The man in the picture on the "long bowmen position" thread is wearing riding boots which have been rolled down.

Dave

@ MajorB:
 
Because they move on horseback and that's like the place where the mounted longbowmen are hung up.

@ Glengarry5:

Well seen, they have many boots but that are short and in addition they are returned. The mounted longbowmen boots were above the knees.

@ ochoin:

I'm doing enough like that.

@ Cerdic:

Big boots in the 15th Century? Of course you did not know?

@ dapeters:

I do not know how we called these boots in the fifteenth century, but "riding boots" is more explicit than "Big boots", so congratulations.

@ GurKhan:

Bravo you understood everything.

@ You all:

Which manufactory makes beautiful 28mm longbowmen sheep figurines (and also in their dismounted version) in livery coat with "riding boots"?

Figures in the combination of jacekt and long boots seem quite rare.

But have a look at Front Rank WR 22-23-24 – link Knee-length turned-down boots like the Beauchamp Pageant figure, not the ultra-long Continental style. Possibly WRC 22-23-24 for mounted versions, though they're not an exact match to the foot figures cited, and they'd need weapons added.

Thank you GurKhan.

It's really the most beautiful ESSEX figures but when I ordered they had short bows instead of their longbows, I almost strangled …

What do you mean ?

Was there a Continental style?

Was there a Continental style?

Well, the Burgundian and German illustrations I cited above do have much longer boots than the only actual English illustration I found, so I am being cautious about whether the exact style of boot shown in those continental artworks is entirely appropriate for England; that's all.

I had only noticed that some were wearing their boots,returned and no others, questions of types of boots I think, those that are returned are shorter I think.

@Paskal, I have a replica pair of 15th century riding boats the leather is not terrible thick just enough so that the horse hairs will not cause chaffing. One can pull down the thigh parts to make addition protection to cover the lower leg which is what one sees in a lot of the art work.

@ Dapeters :

In any case I like them better as represented on the figurine of Essex Miniatures.

Did anybody in the West really shoot longbows from horseback? Like Welsh/English yew bows? I thought they were too unwieldy. I knew the Japanese had a technique, but their bows were built differently.

Most of us would say no they did not.

@JC Lira:
See this discussion:

TMP link

In fact there is never a question of mounted longbowmen in the WOTR, weird …

oh dear

@dapeters:
I think I know what you mean. :(

Oh dear !: Damn! Damn ! Damn it !

If there were contingents of mounted archers during the WOTR (I mean with riding boots) well it's like the 28mm figures in the combination of livery coat and long boots seem quite rare,luckily the WOTR "specialist" of this forum will tell us where and when and give us their sources:'(

@TMP members:
All available information has been repeated several times, as you all know.
The most recent update is here:

TMP link

The 1452 entry may be especially useful.

Barry

Oh dear !: Damn! Damn ! Damn it !

If there were contingents of mounted archers during the WOTR (I mean with riding boots) well it's like the 28mm figures in the combination of livery coat and long boots seem quite rare,luckily the WOTR "specialist" of this forum will tell us where and when and give us their sources:'(

I think Barry this was a "trigger" event.

@dapeters:
[nods his head]