"Weapons that failed" Topic
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Tango01 | 09 Nov 2019 3:46 p.m. PST |
Of possible interest? link Amicalement Armand |
Lee494 | 09 Nov 2019 3:51 p.m. PST |
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Tango01 | 09 Nov 2019 4:11 p.m. PST |
And what about those…? (smile) link link Amicalement Armand |
deephorse | 09 Nov 2019 5:07 p.m. PST |
More or less the same ones. |
4th Cuirassier | 09 Nov 2019 6:41 p.m. PST |
I've always had a soft spot for the Smith Gun ever since the Walmington Platoon acquired one. |
Tango01 | 10 Nov 2019 3:16 p.m. PST |
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Wolfhag | 11 Nov 2019 9:11 a.m. PST |
Bat Bomb: link T20 shoulder fired mortar:
The T20 used a spring recoil mechanism and the barrel can be seen recoiling in the rear housing in the first bit of video. There seems to be some differences in the bipod and mount in all of the various photos but the basic weapon still looks the same. In the disassembly photos below, it's interesting that the launcher seems to have a single monopod spring mount with two feet on a crossbar at the bottom, much like the monopod used with the current 85mm Carl Gustav RR employed by U.S. Special Forces. According to the R&D Record, one shoulder fired 60mm was observed at a demonstration at Quantico in late 1943. Based on that weapon, Springfield Armory made two of the T20 mortars and submitted them to Aberdeen for further tests. The project was then turned over to the Marine Corps Equipment Board for additional refinements and 100 of the mortars were manufactured for overseas tests. The only reference to where they were used was at Peleliu. Wolfhag |
Tango01 | 11 Nov 2019 11:25 a.m. PST |
Thanks!. Amicalement Armand |
Mark 1 | 11 Nov 2019 12:24 p.m. PST |
The T20 used a spring recoil mechanism and the barrel can be seen recoiling in the rear housing in the first bit of video. There seems to be some differences in the bipod and mount in all of the various photos but the basic weapon still looks the same. Should have gone to a larger caliber … why suffer all the inconvenience for such a small bang on target? I'd suggest something closer to the 81mm mortar for a sufficient bang. Also, a larger caliber means you can put a useful HEAT warhead in your bag of tricks. I mean, if you're going to provide a direct-fire weapon for hard targets, you want to be able to use it on the hardest targets you might come upon. Oh, and no reason to develop your own. The USMC could get enough from the Limeys by reverse Lend Lease, I'm sure. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIAT -Mark (aka: Mk 1) |
Wolfhag | 11 Nov 2019 9:56 p.m. PST |
Mark, You're right about the Piat but the T20 had a longer range, much longer than really needed. The US rifles could fire the 60mm mortar. The fuse arms with the g-force of round being fired so striking it on the ground hard enough could arm it too. Wolfhag |
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