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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP06 Nov 2019 2:19 p.m. PST

"Russia moved quickly, and in ways Ukraine and the world did not understand. On 27 February 2014, covert units occupied the Crimean parliament building in Simferopol and began a siege of Ukrainian military, political, and information spheres. In just 13 days, Russia conducted 15 port calls, 48 aircraft movements, and 10 convoys into Crimea, brought in reinforcements by sea on landing ships, and blockaded the Ukrainian Navy in its ports.1 Not one Ukrainian Navy vessel escaped. By 18 March, Russia had wrested control of key sovereign terrain from Ukraine.

Since 2014, Russia's activities in the eastern Mediterranean and Sea of Azov have reinforced the need for NATO to have credible maritime force options. Twenty-six of NATO's 29 members have coastlines, making the alliance an inherently littoral organization, and there is increasing recognition that maritime power is critical. As NATO considers how it should maneuver under, on, and from the sea, it also must determine how amphibious forces should contribute to its defense and deterrence…"
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USAFpilot06 Nov 2019 4:11 p.m. PST

Maybe Turkey can step up and lead this new task force since they represent the second largest force in NATO and have coast lines along both the Med and Black Sea. It would be a perfect fit. ;-)

FatherOfAllLogic07 Nov 2019 6:56 a.m. PST

What a terrible idea. European countries can't even defend themselves but they should expend resources to allow force projection, presumably, onto Russian soil. Hmmm.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP07 Nov 2019 11:18 a.m. PST

Glup!….


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Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP07 Nov 2019 11:37 a.m. PST

Not really sure what they'd do with it.

Seems like a waste of money to me, given all the land there locally in the region. Ships are very vulnerable to attack, especially in coastal waters, from both land-based SSMs as well as aircraft.

If they're worried about rapid response and the movement of troops, seems like it would be far better, given Europe's geographical layout, to invest in large squadrons of transport helicopters.

Asymmetrical warfare works.

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP07 Nov 2019 12:40 p.m. PST

May or may not be a sound decision but I think it is part of Europe's efforts to provide direction to Nato, seeing the US's role has been compromised.

Macron has some interesting things to say about this:

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I think it no bad thing for the EU to start to see itself as an important military power in its own right. If the Europeans need to project power at home (which, BTW, is a peninsular for those who don't appreciate the plethora of sea coasts it has) and abroad without American support or participation, an amphibious force seems a no-brainer.

Dragon Gunner08 Nov 2019 10:31 a.m. PST

"invest in large squadrons of transport helicopters."-Thresher01

Helicopters have an operating range of around 80 miles they are better off with transport planes they have a much better range.

"European countries can't even defend themselves".-Fatherofalllogic

Yup and its about time the USA review the terms of the alliance. Nato countries if you are not going to maintain your military then you can pay for protection from the USA and be a silent partner…

Lion in the Stars09 Nov 2019 12:22 p.m. PST

Yeah, I don't want to have any Naval forces inside the Black Sea.

Pretty sure the shortest-range Russian antiship missiles can reach the Turkish coast!

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