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Leadpusher Supporting Member of TMP02 Nov 2019 7:59 p.m. PST

Just finished the movie The King on Netflix. It tells the story of Henry V from his ascendancy to the battle of Agincourt. It was very well done, especially the climatic battle scenes.

jay13802 Nov 2019 8:33 p.m. PST

Get inspiration to finish all the perry men at arms I got on the painting table. Final battle was awesome.

bandit86 Supporting Member of TMP03 Nov 2019 12:38 a.m. PST

meh

haywire03 Nov 2019 4:41 p.m. PST

Watched it with my sister. She LOVED the firing trebuchet at night shots. (She does video editing)

SBminisguy03 Nov 2019 7:38 p.m. PST

Just finished the movie The King on Netflix. It tells the story of Henry V from his ascendancy to the battle of Agincourt. It was very well done, especially the climatic battle scenes.


OK, just finished it. I think it's a slow paced and very artistically styled medieval fantasy movie, but it bears little semblance to history.

The actor playing Henry is a skinny hairless twenty-something, makes it hard to buy into him as a experienced warrior-type king. The actor gives off kind of a Kylo Ren vibe during the movie. Especially which what he does to his adviser. Maybe I'm just being too picky since the historical Henry was a hard-bitten 26yo veteran campaigner who had basically ruled England for a year and a half before taking the throne.

And the battle pretty much ignores historical accounts. The archers should have been on the flanks not behind the line, and except for Falstaff's dismounted knights which payed the roll of bait, the English fought in no discernible order just charging in a mob. And I don't know why they had to make the French Dauphin a clownish villain figure.

Also not sure why the French Princess gives Henry an odd "respect me speech" and a demand for Henry to justify his actions at the end…

bandit86 Supporting Member of TMP 03 Nov 2019 12:38 a.m. PST
meh

Yeah…I guess that sums it up…The Outlaw King, also by Netflix, was much, much better.

Augustus Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2019 5:22 p.m. PST

I became bored and switched subject matter. Had many of the same comments as Sbminisguy had.

redmist112204 Nov 2019 6:22 p.m. PST

I watched for entertainment value and not for a history lesson…it was very good!

P.

Earl of the North06 Nov 2019 2:04 a.m. PST

Its another meh from me, at least I didn't buy it especially to watch it as my reaction would probably be stronger in the negative.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP07 Nov 2019 9:46 a.m. PST

At best the armor is a century to modern at worst, it's pure fantasy.

I guess we should be happy French and English men at arms weren't running around in biker leather gear.

Historydude1812 Nov 2019 8:19 p.m. PST

I'm going to have to watch this since Agincourt is my favorite Medieval battle. I was watching Netflix today and do so pretty much every day so I'll probably watch this tomorrow.
Thanks for letting me know about this movie.

WarEmblem14 Nov 2019 6:48 p.m. PST

The armor looked great, the trebuchets were cool and the last hour is quite spectacular. However, Netflix seemed to be caught between two genres with The King (bad title). Should we do an 8 episode series or a (too) long movie? The compromise isn't great because the first hour and a half of the film are too slow for a movie and too quick for a series. The treachery plot is hatched and resolved in 4 minutes. I would have liked to see them go the 8 episode route.

The cast was also a bit uneven. I really liked Falstaff and Edward Cullen as the Dauphin. Ben Mendelsohn is great in everything and his turn as the dying King Henry is no exception. Of our lead, I'm less impressed. I don't believe he would have won the sword fight with Hotspur and the bowl haircut does the actor no justice as King.

I'm going to enjoy anything with swords and castles in it and there is a lot to like here, especially when they get to Agincourt. Not a perfect movie and definitely some missed opportunities but ultimately a fine addition to the Medieval war movie genre. For rewatchability I'm almost certain I'll be skipping ahead to the final battle and skipping much of the prelude.

Thomas Thomas26 Nov 2019 11:01 a.m. PST

The King attempts to combine Shakespeare's version of events and history and manages to bungle both. You gain great appreciation for the Bard as a dramatist when comparing his efforts to those of Netflix's screen writers (one of who also plays a revisionists Sun Tzu version of Shakespeare's Falstaff).

The movie briefly deals with Prince Hal's wanton youth and difficulties with his father, Henry IV then moves rapidly to the French taunts that induce Henry to invade (ahistoricl as Henry was quite determined to re-start the HYW). As in Shakespeare Tennis Balls play some role and likewise an alleged French formented plot against Henry's (shakey) claim to the throne.

The Battle of Shrewsbury is reduced to single combat with Hotspur and here as in much else Shakespeare's account is closer to history.

Once in France and following the Bard's structure the action moves to the siege of Harfluer which is accomplished by trebuchets though as in history and Shakespeare it was done by canons and and fighting at the breach they created.

The English then begin randomly marching around but then do bump into the French led erroneously by the Dauphin (you might recognize him from Harry Potter and Twilight). The armies face off an Agincourt (location lines given ahisitorically and non-Shakespeare to the Dauphin). The classic scenes of Henry wandering his camp in disguise and learning of the army's dour morale followed by his classic dawn battle speech done so magnificently by the Bard are completely botched. The battle itself only marginally resembles history with Henry misplaced in the woods rather than the center of the line and the English opening the battle with men at arms rather than archers. The light armor tactic is also invented for the bulk of the English men at arms.

Finally the Catherine of France is turned into a modern empowered female and the charming wooing scene is all but reversed. As one bow to historical accuracy Henry does speak fluent French unlike his Shakespearean version.

As to good points, the armor is much better than the average Hollywood/HBO effort. Even some attempts to differentiate between upper level knights and standard men at arms and the silly "uniform" armor of so many current productions is avoided. Acting over all is quite good including our young Henry V. Having the courage to use period correct bowl haircuts should be applauded and not seen since the great Sir Lawrence had one in his version of Henry V.

While creating a production with less historical accuracy than Shakespeare may seem cause for disdain, overall I enjoyed The King (my youngest loved it) and at least appreciate that Netfix is trying to give us historical drama. That it does not equal the Bard's efforts is just too high a standard to set.

Next time Netflix stick to history (or just do the Bard straight up). Remaking the Bard is more bold than wise.

TomT

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