Van Damme | 26 Oct 2019 6:46 a.m. PST |
Hi, What colour of uniform for the 100 day campaign (1815), blue or white? Blue seems to be the first choice because it was the campaign uniform colour but is their any definitive proof for this or otherwise? Its been discussed before but I can't find any clear answer. The uniform plates from the centjours-mont-saint-Jean show blue iniform. Thanks in advance for any help/info |
von Winterfeldt | 26 Oct 2019 12:10 p.m. PST |
Patrice Courcelle discussed this topic, in case I remember correctly, blue |
Van Damme | 26 Oct 2019 1:26 p.m. PST |
von Winterfeldt, any links to this topic? Would like to read more about this topic. Regards |
WarEmblem | 26 Oct 2019 9:20 p.m. PST |
They are shown wearing white in the Philip Haythornthwaite Uniforms of Waterloo book. The white is such a spectacular uniform (the best in the Napoleonic era in my opinion) that this was good enough for me. |
Van Damme | 27 Oct 2019 11:02 a.m. PST |
Came across this on facebook: link so most likely blue uniform but was it really? |
von Winterfeldt | 27 Oct 2019 11:46 a.m. PST |
Unfortunately I have no link – it is printed matter. |
Van Damme | 30 Oct 2019 1:55 p.m. PST |
Similar question about the " valise"; Square or round for the 100 day campaign? |
SHaT1984 | 31 Oct 2019 4:40 p.m. PST |
I'm not even sure why a question exists. No soldier in the Emperors army would have worn white. They'd wear an undress frac before wearing a 'Royal' uniform. And yes I know some wore modified emblems repainted etc. in tricoleurs, regards davew |
dibble | 01 Nov 2019 5:39 p.m. PST |
That Napoleoniskya site leaves much to be desired regarding historic accuracy. Quoting the drivel that Elting spouted is one of them. |
SHaT1984 | 05 Nov 2019 3:30 a.m. PST |
Ok lets have another try. Rousellot is completely silent on 1815. However has does acknowledge contemporary paintings of Carabiniers with the rectangular valise appearing during 1813, when regulation equipment may not have been available. One could equally argue that the 'new broom' could have swept out any uniform or equipment anachronisms during the reorganisation of the army in general before the campaign. d |
von Winterfeldt | 06 Nov 2019 5:47 a.m. PST |
Rousselot devotes a whole plate about the "second dress" of the Carabiniers from 1811 – 1815 in a plate – published in Sabretache – here he shows a Carabinier in light blue uniform along with a square portemanteaux – valise. An anonymous print showing Carabiniers in July 1815 also gives a square valise, the trooper is in light blue, the officer in white. |
Van Damme | 06 Nov 2019 1:08 p.m. PST |
So far it looks like officers in white coats and troops in light blue with a square portemanteaux valise with sabres of the "lame à la Montmorency" (slightly bended) are the most likely historical correct choice? I found a uniform plate from Patrick Courcelle with Carabinier officer, trumpeter and trooper between 1813-1815 with all of them wearing a light blue uniform and round portemanteaux valise (except the officer. Can anyone recommend a hosting site other then fotobucket to store images for linking with fora? Regards |
von Winterfeldt | 06 Nov 2019 1:12 p.m. PST |
well this was on this painting of July 1815 only, I would opt for light blue also for the officers dress in battle. |
NapStein | 06 Nov 2019 2:04 p.m. PST |
I just added two articles by Patrice Courcelle mentioned by von Winterfeld on my site – just click at PDF link Greetings from Berlin Markus Stein |
von Winterfeldt | 06 Nov 2019 2:37 p.m. PST |
By the way there are two very good plates by Peter Schuchhardt – in his compangie d'elite series plate 28 and 29 – lots of illustrations and excellent discussion of this subject |
Van Damme | 06 Nov 2019 2:58 p.m. PST |
@NapStijn and von Winterfeldt Thank you for the information and link. Much appreciated! |
Van Damme | 08 Nov 2019 11:35 a.m. PST |
Questions about the divisional and brigade commanders and staff; Black comb on the helmet for brigade general? Cuirass for every staff officer and ADC? Knotel shows a plate (1812) with a carabinier general de division with cuirass and black hair comb on the helmet. According to the regulations, Napoleon ordered every member of a cuirrasier division to wear the cuirass and helmet. Any reverence or proof of this at Waterloo? |
Van Damme | 11 Nov 2019 3:21 p.m. PST |
I came across this site: link Very interesting reading about the uniform of the carabiniers during the hundred days campaign. Still looking for any info on the colour of the "chenille" for a general de brigade, more specific for Maréchal de Camp, BLANCARD Amable Guy during this campaign. Any information would be greatly appreciated! |
von Winterfeldt | 12 Nov 2019 10:27 a.m. PST |
thanks, an interesting read, for the chenille – I would go with black. |