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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2019 9:28 p.m. PST

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SHaT198413 Oct 2019 4:09 p.m. PST

>>on the Sultan<<

Eh??? Perhaps a translator required, if its not the plumes in question.

*When I first saw these ridiculous double height plumes I couldn't believe it- but having observed the egos of dictators from Russia and elsewhere (carrot-top anyone..) in the real world for 50 years now, I can see why they needed 'enlargements' to show just how big-men they really were(n't)…

Cuprum213 Oct 2019 6:00 p.m. PST

Plumes in Russian was called "sultans"

As far as I know, these were worn, for example, by the Prussians. It seems, first of all, the great plumes hurt the ego of the author of these lines)))
By the way – why not the bear caps of the French guard?

SHaT198414 Oct 2019 12:00 a.m. PST

Thanks so much for your generous translation service.
No so much ego in the world, more crow to be served I'd say.

Stoppage14 Oct 2019 3:37 a.m. PST

also called busches.

I wonder if they affected aiming? (that is of incoming)

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP14 Oct 2019 10:22 a.m. PST

(smile)

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SHaT198415 Oct 2019 3:16 a.m. PST

>>
also called busches.
I wonder if they affected aiming? (that is of incoming)

Yes the German is well understood.
Seems personal attacks are more likely where no defence to any questions given.
Having borne the weight of an unplumed shako, I'd wager that that extra height and weight out of balance would have seriously messed with the firers precision- not so much as a target.

Stoppage15 Oct 2019 4:23 a.m. PST

Seems personal attacks are more likely where no defence to any questions given.

Does this comment pertain to any of my comments?

Stoppage15 Oct 2019 4:25 a.m. PST

On the overall height presentation – if rounds go on-the-whole overhead because the firers get their aim (or level) wrong – then would extra height – bearskins or sultans or busches or whatever – mean rounds flying overhead even hightier?

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