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ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Oct 2019 9:57 a.m. PST

I'm reading Samuel Eliot Morison's 15-volume History of US Naval Operations in World War II ( great read!). I was struck by the number of times that fuel considerations affected naval operations on both sides. Time and again actions had to be cut short, or vital forces missed an engagement because they were busy refueling. For example, during the Battle of the Eastern Solomons (Late August 1942) Admiral Fletcher detached the carrier Wasp and her escorts to retire for fueling at exactly the wrong moment and did not have her or her planes when battle was joined. If Wasp had been around this battle could have become a second Midway for the Japanese. (Fletcher was notoriously sensitive about his fuel levels and Wasp could have easily stuck around for a few more days.) And this is just one example. Refueling is something we don't think much about, but it was a major concern.

Old Contemptible09 Oct 2019 10:04 a.m. PST

"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC

Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP09 Oct 2019 10:16 a.m. PST

Both with air to air and sea battles we do not care about fuel nor amunitions, all too often, which was a great lilitating, can I say non results calming sort of, effect.

Note I found my sentence strange, but 2 werks of Germans might have affected things.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP09 Oct 2019 12:26 p.m. PST

I was doing a little reading on naval operations in the PTO and the fuel consumption is staggering.

hindsTMP Supporting Member of TMP09 Oct 2019 4:15 p.m. PST

OP, if you want to fairly evaluate Fletcher, you need to read more than just Morison, who got a lot of his information from Fletcher's professional rivals, like Turner. Take a look at "Black Shoe Carrier Admiral" by Lundstrom.


Striker09 Oct 2019 6:23 p.m. PST

Not only fuel but build up on the hulls of ships, regarding making a dash to the Philippines.

Lion in the Stars12 Oct 2019 1:23 p.m. PST

Yeah, fuel is always an issue for ships. Even my nuclear-powered subs cared about how much diesel fuel we had onboard, as that powered our emergency generator in case our reactor had issues (or if we needed to move an immense amount of air around the ship from a fire).

I can only imagine how much 'fun' trying to keep the subs, PT boats, and carriers was in WW2.

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