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Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Oct 2019 10:54 a.m. PST

40,000 ye3ars in the future!

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I figured I could up my game from my chibi Necrons to some proper ones. But as this conversion project shows, I didn't want them too proper.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2019 12:16 p.m. PST

How can robots be undead?

Kropotkin303 Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2019 12:33 p.m. PST

Hmm. Interesting point nnascati. Perhaps Necrons assimilate the conciouseness of their victims and upload them to another Necron. Who knows.

Personal logo PaulCollins Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2019 3:16 p.m. PST

Ah, but wouldn't robots by their very nature be undead?

gavandjosh0206 Oct 2019 3:33 p.m. PST

PC – No. They would be dead. Machines are dead (even smart ones).

gavandjosh0206 Oct 2019 3:34 p.m. PST

Actually I'm wrong. They aren't alive in the first place.

Personal logo PaulCollins Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2019 4:09 p.m. PST

Touché

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Oct 2019 4:33 p.m. PST

This relates back to one of the things SWMBO said about a debate on some WH40K forum … "Somewhere between 'undead robots' and 'from 40,000 years in the future' you lost the moral highground to use the word 'realism'."

I believe the current fluff (or at least the last fluff I read … and I don't play 40K, but I do like the fluff) says Necrons are a race of beings that were suckered into moving their consciousness to living metal shells by star vampires (powerful beings that feed on stars and planets (less power, but more yummy, those planets) who were themselves suckered into trapping their consciousnesses in the same living metal … by the Necrons. Yeah. Really.

I have some other undead robots from AT-43 that need their own big war machine. Fortunately, it's still Halloween season at the craft stores …

Personal logo Narratio Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2019 6:58 p.m. PST

Sometimes you have to wonder about the lifestyles of the people who write those blurbs. I blame it on the meds. Need to find better suppliers.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2019 9:27 p.m. PST

I never liked the term "undead" even for reanimated humans. Better to be positive, like realive or reanimated. Given the popularity of this sort of creature, there are many names. I can think of a couple, there are more, used in film and literature
walking dead
living dead (something of an oxymoron )
walkers
zombies
hungries
infected
revenant (but re-animated with DiCrprio movie)

The H Man Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2019 9:46 p.m. PST

From a GW perspective, the Necron army is a 40k version of the undead army, mostly Egyptianish. However the original necrons seem more akin to the old androids, and those to the Terminator movies.

The more modern flayed ones reek of the Terminator films.

Basically a mix of Terminator films and Egyptian undead.

I always viewed them like Cybermen, who replaced their bodies with artificial ones.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Oct 2019 4:05 a.m. PST

Before reading any of the fluff, I guessed they would be dead souls recalled into robot bodies, kind of the way dead souls sometimes possess living bodies and then are usually tricked into inhabiting a jar or something else (grandme warned us … don't open the cookie jar!).

The way they are written they have the undying despair of traditional undead. So, that works too.

I have cast them in many roles on the table, including just robots (i.e., the terminermies).

I like the term "undead" for the same reason DOM abhors the term "unsweetened tea". It goes … Look. You didn't make sweet tea, then distill it into components, remove the sweet ones, the recombine the rest. You just didn't put sugar in it in the first place. Sweetened tea is sweetened tea. Unsweetened tea is just tea. … or words to that effect.

Likewise, "un" really doesn't go with "dead". You don't come back from dead. Mauybe from mostly dead, but not dead. (And usually only if twue wuv is involved.) So putting the word together like that highlights how unnatural the undead are.

I like the other terms Bobgnar used. For D&D I used to have a venn diagram of various intersecting classes of undead (the broadest category). Yes, I was that nerd. Pretty much still am.

Legion 408 Oct 2019 2:11 p.m. PST

huh?

ninthdoc08 Oct 2019 9:30 p.m. PST

Even the Cylons from the original BSG were a race of some sort of Reptilian origin who were in some way remade into the robots that were on screen. Like so many other things, this was never fully explained in the series. I loved it, though.

Dr Who's Cybermen were also more akin to the living in their early days (prior to their introduction in the series). They were actually basically humans from a previously hidden world that was an exact duplicate of Earth. The world was called Mondas. They embraced the technology necessary to immortalize themselves and slowly upgraded their mortal bodies until there was no trace of humanity left and now exist purely as machines. They are still constantly upgrading their systems; that's one reason why their appearance changes from story to story. They are SOOOOO the Borg before the Borg were a thing.

Yes, the original Necrons were introduced as "Chaos Androids".

The H Man Supporting Member of TMP09 Oct 2019 2:39 a.m. PST

Red Eye is my favorite.

And don't forget the Kaleds!

Perhaps Mary Shelley got the first laugh??? Undead, and science combined.

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