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Au pas de Charge14 Sep 2019 12:49 p.m. PST

By look of the uniform alone, which three would you choose for either side?

Col Durnford14 Sep 2019 2:10 p.m. PST

Easy call for me.

Only two in Zouave uniform in my collection:

CSA – LOUISIANA TIGERS

USA – 114th PA – COLLIS ZOUAVES

Others honorable mention (not in full Zouave uniform), but do have some minor distinctions:

CSA – 13th MISS (LAUDERDALE ZOUAVES) – dress uniform
USA – 44th NY (ELLSWORTH AVENGERS) – red trim

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2019 2:20 p.m. PST

Along with the Tigers I like the 10th NY who faced the Texas Brigade at 2nd Manassas.

tigrifsgt14 Sep 2019 3:26 p.m. PST

Of course my Tigers and 5th New York. Were there any other Zouave units in the ACW? As a third special uniform unit, the Garabaldi Guards.

Dances with Clydesdales14 Sep 2019 4:23 p.m. PST

76th PA Keystone Zouaves
9th NY Hawkins Zouaves
114th PA Collis' Zouaves

Personal logo KimRYoung Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2019 4:31 p.m. PST

Got to have the 14th Brooklyn (84th NY)

Kim

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2019 1:31 a.m. PST

10th New York National Zouaves
11th New York
114th PA. Collis' Zouaves
Louisiana Tigers

14th Brooklyn (84th NY) wasn't a Zouave Regiment. They were Chasseurs.

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Col Durnford15 Sep 2019 7:08 a.m. PST

I believe the 114 PA was the only unit to keep the Zouave uniform throughout the war.

donlowry15 Sep 2019 9:05 a.m. PST

11th Indiana.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2019 2:25 p.m. PST

MiniPigs. Great question!

I have only ever done Bushwhackers posted on here some time ago. Long story, but all to do with one of my sons doing a PhD on the Guerilla War in Missouri/Kansas and needing a desk ornament.

He keeps hinting about a unit of Zouaves and, to be honest, the Louisiana Tigers are the only ones I know. I get confused about turbans/fez/even kepis or forage caps for headwear as they seem such a motley lot. I honestly thought chasseurs were Zouaves by the 1860s!

Could anyone post a few pictures to inspire me?

Adam's Brigade at Waterloo I do feel more comfortable with

epturner15 Sep 2019 4:59 p.m. PST

33rd New Jersey

140th New York

and another vote for the 76th Pennsylvania.

Eric

Buckeye AKA Darryl16 Sep 2019 3:11 a.m. PST

54th Ohio
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34th Ohio

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Cleburne186316 Sep 2019 3:58 a.m. PST

114th PA
14th Brooklyn
146th Pennsylvania

Corporal Fagen16 Sep 2019 12:18 p.m. PST

5th Zouaves
Fire Zouaves
Tigers

Wolverine17 Sep 2019 10:25 a.m. PST

11th Indiana (Second Uniform)
155th Pennsylvania
146th New York

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP17 Sep 2019 1:00 p.m. PST

Never knew there so many Zouave regts!

Thanks for posting those pics Buckeye.

Cleburne186317 Sep 2019 5:36 p.m. PST

VCarter, the 14th Brooklyn kept their chasseur uniform for the whole war.

Rhino Co17 Sep 2019 7:45 p.m. PST

The Peacock Brigade: 140th NY, 146th NY, 91st PA, & 155th PA

Rusty Balls17 Sep 2019 8:28 p.m. PST

+1 Rhino Co. All Zouave BDE. 140th NY, 146th NY, 155th PA.

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP17 Sep 2019 10:54 p.m. PST

14th Brooklyn were not Zouaves they were chasseurs as were the 83rd Penn. The 83rd ordered their uniforms from the same French company which furnished to the French Army. A lot of them were a really tight fit.

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP17 Sep 2019 11:04 p.m. PST

5th NY Infantry "Duryée's" Zouaves

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Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP17 Sep 2019 11:06 p.m. PST

This is a great book. It could use more color plates but it is an excellent reference for your home library.

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Trajanus18 Sep 2019 10:24 a.m. PST

Are we talking full Regiments or Zouave Companies that were around for a short time and then just got sucked into larger standard Regiments?

Au pas de Charge18 Sep 2019 11:11 a.m. PST

Either, really. I would just mask the regiment and let it wear what the sole company wore.

Ima get that book!

Normal Guy Supporting Member of TMP19 Sep 2019 7:11 a.m. PST

I have one each of kepis, fezzes, and turbans. Throw in one the LA Tigers for the CSA boys. Since I play mostly FNF I don;'t get hung up on specific units other than in the original painting of the troops.

corzin19 Sep 2019 10:03 a.m. PST

just a thought

when applied to units in the ACW, the word "zoauve" means something different than what the word means in most other contexts.
so while not being textbook "zoauves"….the 14th Brooklyn were ACW zoauves

Cleburne186319 Sep 2019 2:25 p.m. PST

I intentionally referred to the 14th Brooklyn uniform as a chasseur uniform.

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