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Marcus Brutus13 Sep 2019 11:03 a.m. PST

I am wondering if there is a book available that has collected all the typical TO&E at the Corp, Division and Brigade level for the various belligerents in WWII. I am imagining a one or two page schematic diagram. This material is available scattered in a variety of places but it would be helpful to have it all in one edition. It would allow someone to review the development of a the Panzer Division over time or compare a US Armoured Division with a British Armoured division. Does something like this exist? Thanks for any help.

MajorB13 Sep 2019 11:35 a.m. PST

Try here:
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jekinder613 Sep 2019 4:44 p.m. PST

From the Battlefront rules website. These OBs are scaled at the infantry squad and tank and gun section level (2 per).
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Marcus Brutus14 Sep 2019 8:13 p.m. PST

Thanks guys. Both suggestions are helpful.

Starfury Rider15 Sep 2019 8:34 a.m. PST

I don't think I ever came across a single volume that could fit all that in. Corps level is particularly amorphous in terms of what units could be included. From memory there were around six different incarnations of the British Armoured Division alone, without taking into account the various cartwheels in desert organisation, or amendments in Italy and later NWE.

The German Army didn't move towards a standardised Panzer Division until late 1943, and there were still multiple forms of Panzer Division well into 1944. The Red Army had Tank Corps from around 1942 onwards, hard to sum up and difficult to directly compare to Allied or Axis formations. The US Army should be easier, only two types of Armored Division went overseas.

In a 200-page book layout you can probably eat up a quarter just on the Armoured Divisions of the major players, even with a fairly high level approach to unit descriptions. If you're happy to know that a 1944 British Armoured Regiment is 61 cruiser tanks, 11 light tanks, 6 AA tanks and 9 scout cars, that doesn't take up much room. If you want to know subunit organisation, who ran what types of tanks and when, and unit variations, it takes a lot more room.

That's part of the reason why you tend to see a study on a particular army, or even campaign, going wider means a much more diluted picture of how units and formations lined up. There's not much attention to Corps Troops, partly I think because they are just so hard to quantify.

As with the first link offered above, it's the kind of subject that lends itself to a web based project, where you're not constricted by a page count and can add sections in the same way as you would volumes in print.

Gary

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