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Tango0112 Sep 2019 3:24 p.m. PST

"Full interior kits seem to be all the rage at the moment but they really are a labour of love and do take up a significant amount of time, so it is a relief to get back to a "traditional" exterior model kit. Looking forward to a quick project, Amusing Hobby's Tiger (P) looks to fit the bill so I was quite happy to get into it.

After making several full-interior kits of recent times Paul has started his Amusing Hobby Pz.Kpfw. VI Tiger (P) Truppenubungsfahrzeug kit that promises NO interior whatsoever :-). He has paused to show you what comes inside the box before he gets to build the kit in this review…

The VK.4501(P) was the heavy tank proposed by Porsche to counter the shock appearance of the T-34 and KV tanks on the Eastern Front. The potency of the 88mm Flak against these two foes made it an automatic selection to be used as the main armament of the next generation heavy tank, but ultimately, some design flaws in the Porsche prototype saw it lose out to the Henschel design, which would ultimately become the fearsome Tiger tank. This wasn't the end of the VK.4501(P) though, as Ferdinand Porsche decided to put his design into production expecting it to win the competition, but after this failed, the hulls were converted to the Ferdinand/Elefant tank destroyer…"

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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP17 Sep 2019 8:01 a.m. PST

What a great review that is.

This is not handsome vehicle, as the commentator says. It almost looks like a "real" Tiger going backwards. Wonder why It lost out though?

How clever to add a figure of the good Dr Porsche himself.

Great find Tango. If the New policy encourages more content like this and not just adverts for a new kit, then I will eat humble pie and be delighted.

Andy ONeill17 Sep 2019 8:53 a.m. PST

The porsche tiger had a weird electric drive. A very bad idea which theh never got to work reliably. Iirc it caught fire during trials.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP17 Sep 2019 9:36 a.m. PST

Often wondered. Sounds a bit of a "disadvantage" to the crew. Did that carry over to the Ferdinand then?

Bit like I always wondered about the two King Tiger turrets. I remember one was Henschel and one was Porsche and the minority one looked far better than the accepted one. But which was which….?

But I am now a Napoleon buff and have forgotten all that, or much of it anyway.

Thanks!

Col Piron17 Sep 2019 10:29 a.m. PST

Porsche

Henschel

Lion in the Stars17 Sep 2019 1:02 p.m. PST

Often wondered. Sounds a bit of a "disadvantage" to the crew. Did that carry over to the Ferdinand then?

The goofy gasoline-electric drive did, but that's because the Ferdinand/Elephant were built on Tiger(P) chassis. Porsche had made ~100 Tiger(P) chassis before the Henschel Tiger won the trials. And the Germans were never going to abandon a running chassis until it stopped running permanently.

As for the King Tiger turrets, the Porsche turret's rounded front proved to be a shot trap, would deflect shots down into the top of the driver's compartment.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP17 Sep 2019 1:03 p.m. PST

Thanks! Porsche lost out on the King Tiger turret as well then.

But his design looks so modern. That is a great top picture

deephorse17 Sep 2019 1:22 p.m. PST

The porsche tiger had a weird electric drive. A very bad idea which theh never got to work reliably. Iirc it caught fire during trials.

In addition, when first demonstrated to Hitler the Porsche Tiger was found to be unable to turn whilst stationary. When it was subsequently demonstrated to Speer it's running and climbing abilities were found to be worse than those of the Panzer IV. Speer was not impressed. The Henschel design was better in every way.

VonBlucher17 Sep 2019 7:18 p.m. PST

P0rshe had built 50 turrets before the Henschel turret won out so I think the first 50 tiger 2's had the Porsche turret, which is what the few that made it to Normandy had.

Martin Rapier20 Sep 2019 6:54 a.m. PST

The Porsche turret just look so much better though:)

As noted the Tiger IIs in Normandy, whether they were in the 503rd or the Panzer Lehr Tiger II company had Porsche turrets. The Lehr Tigers were so unreliable that they mainly formed photo opportuniteis for grinning GIs, but they did have very unusual turret numbers.

See Wolfgang Schneiders 'Tigers in Combat' series.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP20 Sep 2019 7:31 a.m. PST

Well as long as I did not had to crew one, I think the Porsche design had the looks, even if its performance was rubbish…bit like a certain sports car in its earlier years. Lethal cornering…

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