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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP11 Sep 2019 1:27 a.m. PST

We have seen the mule before (Gringos40 28mm) but this is a great piece of modelling and diorama work, so I truly hope I am allowed to post it;

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viking11 Sep 2019 3:29 a.m. PST

GED did a fantastic job.One almost feels one is back in Hue in 1968

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP11 Sep 2019 4:51 a.m. PST

On balance I would rather not……NVA seemingly did not quite follow Geneva Convention on that occasion.

The red brick and red dust on the tarmac…it has that Nam look

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Sep 2019 5:41 a.m. PST

Viking many thanks indeed ,,,Barry Evans must take full credit for the paint job of figures and Mule…Purple Lion made the wall etc.

Liam yep not a great place to be in February 1968!!
thanks for posting!

regards
Ged
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Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP11 Sep 2019 8:04 a.m. PST

Well done!

Bismarck11 Sep 2019 2:31 p.m. PST

Great work and figs! I am running out of compliments!

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Sep 2019 4:47 a.m. PST

thank you chaps!!
Bismarck…you many have a few left
up your sleeve lol (for the next releases)
well that's the hope!!

best regards
Ged
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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse12 Sep 2019 8:21 a.m. PST

gold star

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Sep 2019 10:57 a.m. PST

Legion 4 obliged!!

regards
Ged
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Fish12 Sep 2019 2:39 p.m. PST

Nicely done.

I'm a bit puzzled though what is going on with the recoilless rifle in the diorama…

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Sep 2019 10:53 p.m. PST

Lonkka1Actual

many thanks indeed…
the 106 is "about " to come into action
cheers

Ged
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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2019 2:22 a.m. PST

Just make sure the chap kneeling to the rear moves out of the way before they do fire. Behind a recoilless rifle is not an ideal place to remain too long!

Would Barry Evans be prepared to share his basic colour recommendations for Marine uniforms and kit? I have found a few suggestions on TMP using Google search

Fish13 Sep 2019 3:10 a.m. PST

deadhead, my thinking exactly!

While doing my stint in the Finnish army I was trained to use these babies (actually the local 95mm recoilless rifle) and the lethal backblast area is something you do not want to be yourself or leave anything useful in!

IIRC the area was 30 meters long with 95mm so I gather 106mm would have slightly bigger one.

Nor do you want to have a wall behind to reflect it back to you, or use it in confined space (best know blunder about this is in the end of Stallone's Rambo where he fires a LAW from cockpit of a UH-1 and downs a Mil-24 Hind and the guys behind him are just showing happy faces afterwards instead o blown to smithereens :D

Since the Mules that had recoiless rifles seem to have some sort of ammo holder I'm wondering how the gun actually was supposed to fire without the backblast affecting it too and blowing the ammo all around? Tried to google but didn't find anything else besides a pic or two of one firing and at least one of the two pics I immediately found had it firing sideways so the backblast area was definitely projected outside the vehicle the way I would've thought most logical based on my experiences.

(even hunkering down by the barrel as the loader or gunner the blast you get from one of these babies is aking to someone hitting you on the chest with a spade. And if you think you can lessen the pressure effect on your ears by keeping your mouth open, forget it. Loose material like sand and gravel will be blown around and will fill your mouth…)

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2019 5:29 a.m. PST

That Rambo story is brilliant. I will watch out for that!

I have seen many a film of recoilless rifles but am glad to say never stood near one firing. Considering they are sometimes considered an anti tank weapon, that blast and cloud dust must be a tactical disadvantage.

Couple more pics;

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Fish13 Sep 2019 5:58 a.m. PST

Oh, indeed the ARE an anti-tank weapon!

Or at least in Finland, while still in use, they were in the arsenal of the Anti Tank Company.

And you hunker down right next to the gun if you are the gunner or loader. The other crew just stays away from the backblast area. :)

Indeed the dust might be a bit of a problem, but there is plenty of smoke and fire too (and the dust ain't all THAT big an issue! But it tends to enter mouth especially when crouching down near the gun)

Fish13 Sep 2019 5:59 a.m. PST

Some clips of our younger generation training with "Musti".

YouTube link

YouTube link

YouTube link

Fish13 Sep 2019 6:02 a.m. PST

And here is the Rambo clip:

youtu.be/oQjEsduxE3A?t=139

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Sep 2019 2:21 a.m. PST

Lonkka1Actual

thanks for the great input!!

cheers
Ged
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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse14 Sep 2019 9:57 a.m. PST

Yes like all Recoiless weapons, RPGs, etc., you don't stand behind them when firing. We were all trained to check your back blast area, for LAWs, Dragons, etc. And generally you don't fire those from inside a structure/completely enclosed areas. I've seen videos of some jihadis doing than in Iraq, etc. with the ongoing GWOT. They didn't fare well … evil grin

And IIRC the 106mm had not only AT rounds but APERS/HE ? old fart We didn't have any of those when I served in the US ARMY, '79-'90.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Sep 2019 8:10 a.m. PST

thanks for the great input Legion 4!!

cheers
Ged
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jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Sep 2019 3:55 a.m. PST

more Mule pictures to follow..
in response to many requests!

cheers
Ged
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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP19 Sep 2019 4:39 a.m. PST

Not sure if I posted this before but it does show more detail, painted up by Barry Edwards.

I am told this is a metal casting in pewter and not a plastic offering.

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse19 Sep 2019 7:51 a.m. PST

thumbs up

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Sep 2019 9:30 a.m. PST

cheers Chaps…

regards
Ged
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