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Atheling Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2019 12:50 a.m. PST

Hi,

I'm looking for information on the Battles of the Swabian League; the Battle of Dornach in particular.

Obviously, there is Osprey for reference and Wiki, but I've not been able to find very much information on the troop types present (apart from the obvious) and how the battle went.

I wonder if any TMP members might have any additional information, like OOB's and in particular some kind of 'battle map'?

Here's what Wiki have to say:

The Battle of Dornach was a battle fought on 22 July 1499 between the troops of Emperor Maximilian I and the Old Swiss Confederacy close to the Swiss village of Dornach. The battle turned into a decisive defeat for Maximilian, and concluded the Swabian War between the Swiss and the Swabian League.

On 19 July, Imperial troops marching on Dorneck Castle were sighted, and Solothurn called Bern for help. Bern sent 5000 troops, Zurich 400, and smaller contingents from Uri, Unterwalden and Zug also started to move to Dornach. On 20 July, 600 troops left Lucerne. The Austrians had about 16,000 troops. Many of these were bathing in the Birs.[1] The first attacks on 22 July were executed by the troops of Bern, Zurich and Solothurn, but they were beaten back. Only with the arrival of the reinforcements from Lucerne and Zug, which suddenly broke out of the woods "with horns and shouting" were the Imperial troops turned to flight after several hours' fighting.

The commander of the Imperial troops, Heinrich von Fürstenberg, was killed in the early stages of fighting. When Maximilian in Überlingen heard about the lost battle, he was reportedly devastated by the news.

The battle of Dornach was the last armed conflict between the Swiss and any member state of the Holy Roman Empire. The Treaty of Basel of 22 September was the conclusion of the war. It was a strategic victory for the Swiss Confederacy, revoking the imperial ban against the Swiss cantons, legalising the alliance of the League of the Ten Jurisdictions with the Confederates and placing the Thurgau under Swiss jurisdiction.

A relief wall was erected in 1949 in the town of Dornach commemorating the battle.

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Malatesta150008 Sep 2019 1:41 a.m. PST

There was a medieval dead show about some of the bodies foudn there that was ok. I can't find a free stream of it online though: link

GurKhan08 Sep 2019 6:33 a.m. PST

There's a thesis in German on Maximilian, his Burgundian (or "welsche") Guard, and the art of war, available at link or link which includes a brief section on Dornach (p.143 onwards).

Warspite108 Sep 2019 8:10 a.m. PST

I have also seen the Medieval Dead programme on Dornach. Many of the skulls are still on show in the town centre while others are held in museums. One skull in particular was hit by one of those 'wavy' edged two-handed swords resulting in multiple cuts across the skull. Previously such swords were only thought of as parade weapons but it appears that they were actually used in combat.

I recommend the programme.

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Atheling Supporting Member of TMP10 Sep 2019 3:50 a.m. PST

I have also seen the Medieval Dead programme on Dornach. Many of the skulls are still on show in the town centre while others are held in museums. One skull in particular was hit by one of those 'wavy' edged two-handed swords resulting in multiple cuts across the skull. Previously such swords were only thought of as parade weapons but it appears that they were actually used in combat.

I watched it last night. Whilst both interesting and informative to a degree, apart from a brief animation at the start of the programme there is very little info in regard to the troop types present and the course of the battle.

Is there anything in English out there? I've literally trawled the net and found little to nothing.

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https://allthebrave.blogspot.com

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GurKhan10 Sep 2019 4:22 a.m. PST

Have you seen link ? Only about a page and a half, though.

Atheling Supporting Member of TMP10 Sep 2019 4:48 a.m. PST

Wow! Thanks GurKhan. Brilliant stuff!!

I've just bought, One Million Mercenaries on Kindle so it seems that my so far futile search for information has turned into a veritable flux! :>)

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https://allthebrave.blogspot.com

Just Add Water Blog (Painting, Modelling etc)
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