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KYPD3802 Sep 2019 12:17 p.m. PST

First of five stands of clubmen. Plus a couple of 'command' stands of the Dorsetshire clubmen who took on the NMA at Hambledon Hill

Lots of headswaps (which might explain why I have only managed one stand), plus lots of deliberations about casualty marker 'motto' – Repel All Plunderers!

More pictures, brief history of clubmen: link

MajorB02 Sep 2019 12:34 p.m. PST

From the "Clubmen 1645" website to which you link:
"The word Clubmen is a description of a forming of an association and not of a description of carrying a club."
https://www.clubmen1645.com

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP02 Sep 2019 1:53 p.m. PST

Excellent paint job and unit.
The figures appear to be armed with pitchforks, cudgels and axes from what I can see.
So yes you have read the sources correctly.
Are there some weapon types missing? Maybe basic spears or cheap swords?

KYPD3802 Sep 2019 3:17 p.m. PST

Thanks Martin.

To be honest we don't actually know the real reason behind the term 'clubmen'. Certainly the earlier clubmen risings were more spontaneous, and they were described as having 'clubs' amongst their weaponry. Later risings were more organised group (I.e. clubs) affairs.

There is evidence for both reasons behind the term, we shall never know which is 'more accurate'

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2019 4:20 p.m. PST

I also thought that "clubmen" arose from local social groups of peasants (clubs) rather than the club as a weapon, but as you say the jury is still out on that!

Nice figs

rmaker02 Sep 2019 4:59 p.m. PST

Am I the only one who has fantasies of fielding Bertie, Bingo, Pongo, Oofy and the rest of the Drones when a scenario calls for "Clubmen"?

Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2019 5:50 p.m. PST

You left out Honoria Glossup, who would give them real muscle. grin

KYPD3803 Sep 2019 8:57 a.m. PST

Thanks Frederick.
rmaker and SMM – haven't a clue what you are talking about

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP03 Sep 2019 9:24 a.m. PST

I keep looking for Lord Peter Wimsey, Mycroft and Jorkins, backed by suitable staff.

Does anyone else remember John Dickson Carr's The Devil in Velvet. where some of the combatants ought to be called "clubmen" but are called "woodmen" instead, just to avoid that?

rmaker03 Sep 2019 11:07 a.m. PST

KYPD38 – go read some Wodehouse.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP03 Sep 2019 5:45 p.m. PST

And Dorothy L. Sayers--especially in this context Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club--and Lord Dunsany's "Jorkens" stories, KYPD38. You're missing something if you haven't.

KYPD3803 Sep 2019 11:08 p.m. PST

Thanks for the explanation. I've tried PG Wodehouse a few times. Just didn't float my boat whatsoever.

KYPD3810 Oct 2019 5:00 a.m. PST

Second stand completed, oodles of headswaps.

Stands three and four have had their heads swapped, and are awaiting some paint splashed upon them

Codsticker10 Oct 2019 11:13 p.m. PST

Impressive to look at if not to face on the battlefield. Lullzzz…

KYPD3811 Oct 2019 9:09 a.m. PST

Cheers Codsticker

Charge The Guns12 Oct 2019 4:57 a.m. PST

Fabulous looking units. Personally I've a lot of time for the Clubmen. Who doesn't want their political leaders to sort things out without resorting to turning the world upside down! ;-)

KYPD3814 Oct 2019 5:35 a.m. PST

Indeed!

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