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14Bore01 Sep 2019 5:06 a.m. PST

Been searching past couple years on Napolianic boards, searched every which way by battle and commander, it's in a book I have but can't find which. So sadly have to ask.
P.S. -if you haven't, take a look at old threads,

Prince of Essling01 Sep 2019 5:52 a.m. PST

Do you mean Gohrde by any chance as there is no battle of Goethe listed in the Napoleonic Wars Data Book?

14Bore01 Sep 2019 6:13 a.m. PST

Yes, even just looked on the Napoleonic series where I constantly have up the Borodino oob.
I did spell it correctly in TMP search, maybe auto cucumber took over.

Stoppage01 Sep 2019 7:07 a.m. PST

Nafziger's Imperial Bayonets mentions the Battle of Gohrde in the musketry effects section.

BillyNM01 Sep 2019 7:11 a.m. PST

I'm with the 'Prince'; there is no battle of Goethe – unless Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (German poet, playwright, novelist, scientist, statesman, and critic) was fought over, perhaps by the beneficiaries of his will?

Camcleod01 Sep 2019 7:46 a.m. PST

From Wikipedia :)

"Goethe took part in the Battle of Valmy against revolutionary France, assisting Duke Karl August of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach during the failed invasion of France." ??????????????

What was the date of the Battle ?

14Bore01 Sep 2019 8:48 a.m. PST

Really looking for Wallmoden's Corp job, Russian-German legion, Hanoverarians, British contingent.
I think autocorrect took over the title and there is no getting that back.

von Winterfeldt01 Sep 2019 9:35 a.m. PST

in case it involves Wallmoden etc. it is battle of the Göhrde in 1813 – Gohrde is wrong spelling and won't produce a lot of hit numbers.



and read through this thread


an odb compiled by the Steve Smith

By:Steven H. Smith
Date: 2/14/2010, 3:46 am
In Response To: Battle of Gohrde: OOB Lyon's Division? (John A Michael)

My BEST effort! <;^}

Based upon Bode. I have not repeated information previously posted re full names of cmdrs or individual unit organization..

Das Korps Wallmoden.

Avantgarde: Generalmajor v. Tettenborn.
Infanterie v. Lützow Freikorps, 1 Btl. Prem.-Leutn. Staa[k]. [Includes the "Compagnie Tiroler Jäger"(1)]
Jäger-Btl. unter Kapitän v. Reiche, 1 Btl.
Hannov. Jägerkorps (etwa 2 Komp.) und russ.-deutsche Jägerkompagnie unter Oberst Graf Kielmansegge.
Kavallerie unter Major v. Lützow., 5 Schwadronen. [Rittmeister Karl v. Bornstedt (b. 1787)]
Hanseatische reitende Batterie unter Kapitän Spoormann, 4 Geschütze.
[Don] Kasaken-Regimenter:

Russisch-deutsche Division: Generalmajor v. Arentsschildt.
1. Brigade. Major v. Natzmer:
1. Bataillon v. Schaper,
2. Bataillon v. Fircks,
5. Bataillon v. Dobschütz.

2. Brigade. Oberstleutnant v. Wilhelm Gustav Friedrich v. Wardenburg (1781-1838):
3. Bataillon v. Tiedemann,
4. Bataillon v. Hörn,
6. Bataillon v. Natzmer.

1. Husaren-Regiment russisch-deutsche Oberstleutnant v. Goltz, 5 Schwadronen.

1. reitende Batterie. Leutnant v. Scheele, 8 Geschütze.

Britisch-deutsche Division: Generalmajor Lyon.

Leichte Brigade: Oberstleutnant Martin.
Bataillon Dessau[-Anhalt]. Major Krohne.
Bataillon Bremen-Verden. Major de Vaux.
1 Bataillon [2nd] vom 73. britischen Infant.-Regt. [Lt,-Col. William George Harris (2)]

Linien-Brigade: Oberstleutnant Halkett.
Bataillon Lauenburg. Major v. Benoit.
Bataillon des Oberstleutnant v. Bennigsen.
Bataillon des Majors v. Langrehr.
Halb-bataillon der Legion. Kapitän Holtzermann.

Hannoversche Fußbatterie. Kapitän Wiering, 6 Geschütze.

Kavallerie-Division: Generalmajor v. Dörnberg.
3. Husaren-Regiment der deutschen Legion. Major Küper, 5 Schwadronen.
Hannov. Husaren-Regiment Lüneburg. Oberstleutnant v. Estorff, 2 Schwadronen.
Hannov. Husaren-Regiment Bremen-Verden. Oberstleutnant v. d. Bussche, 1 Schwadron.

Reitende Artillerie-Brigade der deutschen Legion. Major Brückmann.
1. reitende Batterie. Kapitän Sympfer, 6 Geschütze.
2. reitende Batterie. Heinrich Jakob Kuhlmann, 6 Geschütze.

2. reitende russisch-deutsche Batterie. Major Brückmann [Leutnant v. Tiedemann cmdr.], 8 Geschütze.

1/2 britische Raketenbatterie. Leutnant Strangway.

(1) See:


(2): See: Page 45 of the Historical record of the Seventy-third Regiment: containing an account of the formation of the regiment from the period of its being raised as the Second Battalion of the Forty-second Royal Highlanders (1851):


Of possible interest:

Geschichte des Lützowschen Freicorps (1841) by Johann Friedrich Gottfried Eiselen:


Leben des Großherzoglich Oldenburgischen Generalmajors W. G. F. Wardenburg … by Peter Müller (1842).

Wilhelm Gustav Friedrich Wardenburg (1781-1838): Oldenburgischer Soldat … by Wilhelm Gilly (1981}.

14Bore01 Sep 2019 9:47 a.m. PST

There in lies the tale then.
Have most of these units, only 6 R-D battalions, 2 Hussar regts, 2 batteries, all British/allied inf, all Lutzow.

Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2019 9:55 a.m. PST

Es Tut mir lied das Ich so traurig bin…

14Bore01 Sep 2019 10:09 a.m. PST

Wish I could read German, the Lutzow book would be interesting

Prince of Essling01 Sep 2019 10:44 a.m. PST

Also as part of the Nap Series Chain: link

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