"BOKI 6mm" Topic

What do you think about producing 6mm figures in compact monolith trios?

Many people base with 24 figures in a unit so the maths would work but you would need to think about where the command figures would be. It might be odd if they were offset.

You mean the Flag Group? Also trio. Plus additional separate officers, drummers and NCO.

First attempt.. but probably will be not moulded.

Good idea – as noted, I base my 6mm Napoleonics in strips

They look good and I would be interested in buying them provided that they are both size and price compatible with my current large collection of Baccus . If not, I would be reluctant to buy many and restrict myself to specialty figures or units

I always based my 6mm in threes, snipping off the fourth guy.

So…I'm in the 'yes' category.

If they were of similar size to Adler figures I would be interested.

Figures are probably in middle between Baccus and Adler by size.
Both Baccus and Adler at moment cost 0.25 EUR per 3 figure, I calculate 0.24 EUR per my monolith troopers trio.
Strips will be 10mm x 5mm.

The doll in the centre of first picture will be master doll, I start all my 6mm projects from zero again. Probably on next year. A lot of preparations must be done before.

May be useful to even consider block of nine figures in three ranks. Would go well with many players existing practice.

Also casting may be simplified as larger volume is more conducive to flow.

I like them! I look forward to when they are ready for sale. I'm another one who would request compatibility with Baccus miniatures : )

Size comparing with my old 6mm is here..
perfectsixps.blogspot.com/2014/11/boki-6mm-napoleonics-review.html

Flag Group for Early Austrians..

My only point would be regarding moulded flags. If people do not have the skill to paint them they might detract from the range

Yes, this is the main point. But, painting the flags in this scale is easier than painting the figures itself.
Another point was demand, that all figures must be separated.
So I decline both these points and prepare monolith blocks with moulded flags. Ready for gaming, just paint and play.

I prefer to paint my own flags in 6mm, but these, despite being realistic, would be a real challenge given their 'fall'!

Even when there will be helpful painting relief on flags?
This is photo from mid stage of sculpting, one flag already have relief for now.

Sho, I think that would certainly help, but getting a brush into the folds and getting the paint where it was needed would still be a tall order, especially if the design was intricate. However, I'd be up for a try!

Similar to last time you tried, I think you should go down the route of your 15/18 mm – make them compatible with an existing range – otherwise you will not get it off ground.

As for the flags. The ideal is to make two kind of command stand – one with and one without flags – ideally one woithout flagpoles so people could use pianowire.

As for coming here for suggestionas. What is the point if you are not open for peoples advice?

I am not open???

Usually I do as people suggest me to do.
And then I must redone all, because my own previous thoughts were better. As with 6mm. I wanted to do trios from very beginning but was suggested to do separate figures.

Also I maked flagbearers only with empty hands or with flagpole only. I even prepared the PDF flagsheet for all 6mm Russian Infantry Borodino flags.

Also my figures are compatible with Baccus and Adler, placing exactly between them.

So now I return to concept to release game-ready 6mm figures. Paint and play. I myself additionally clue them to metal sheet, as I use magnetic boards for game and transportation, but that all. No basing mess anymore, unless you want bigger battalion bases. And even then you may just to glue several trios to bigger metal sheet and thats all.

But you are right about this that on photo there are my old 6mm figures. I test my concept of trios with them – are the trios castable.

But if you, Sparta, suggest me to sculpt my figure (on right) like figure on left, then you are absolutely right, I must politely decline.

Hi Sho, glad that you are open for suggestions – I did not mean that as an offense.

I think you are agreat sculptor and wish you all the best with your endeavours. My point was that if you sit right between Baccus and Adler you might not appeal to either. Making minis the same size as one does not mean that you cannot make even better quality. I have Adler for Napoleonics/WW2, Baccus for everything else, so I am not talkjing from my own perspective when advising to go compatible with Baccus, but I think you will be well set in the market since they hav a large appeal but fewer minis to select from. And if you go that route groups of 4 would be the best since that is what they do.

Don't worry, offend me is very hard or nearly immpossible.

But I am not sure, what you exactly suggested. We all do 6mm figures, so size is the same only exaggerations are different.

You suggest me to do monolith blocks of 4 troopers instead of 3?

Yesterday I uploaded picture of finished flagtrio to Hobby News section.. so tomorrow we may possibly see it.

Hi Sho, yes monollith of 4. Baccus are very easy to base and have a uniform width of 20 mm for 4 minis. So if you go for that peolpe will not have to fiddle around with an extra mini to fit with any Baccus – yours are also a bit closer to the "new" baccus than to Adler in size.

I suppose, that these 20mm for 4 minis are for Polemus rules?

We actually are not allowed to talk about any rules or figures on TMP forums anymore, we may be banned. TMP New Policy.
We are supposed to talk about figures and rules on Hobby Section only, if there are some proper advertise.

My yesterdays 6mm "advertise" is just published there, so we have proper advertise for while.. but after short period all there fall into oblivion and we have no reason to talk there about something what matter..

I don´t know if they are for polemos specifically. I base the 4x2 on a 20mmx10mm base with three to four bases for each unit

But Baccus don' t do monolith blocks of 4. There are 4 figures in loose order. To get a proper basing, one must cut off all these figures and glue to base separately, one by one.

I was suggested to do similar separate figures at beginning and I did. Don't worked well.
This is why I returned to my own initial thoughts and try to do monolith blocks, ready for use without cutting and rebasing.

Hi Boki, I just discovered you. I'm looking for 1796 Austrians and found you. Will you rerelease these? Don't think they are on your site. As for scale, looks fine by me. Quantity on strip doesn't matter to me. The Flags however I would prefer just the pole. Kinda difficult to paint eg Austrian flags. Even with ‘guidance'. Excellent work though!

Hi Wargamer57.
They were on my site, but I removed them. I try to start over.
Here are my Hall of Fame for 6mm figures.
boki.ee/4PAINT/Boki6mm/Boki.htm

Also I have some leftovers on stock, so if you have imminent need for these Austrians, write me to e-mail and we will work out how to settle this problem.

Those look FANTASTIC! : )

I think your work is exceptional at all scales- but please keep working on the 6mm I can't wait to see them for sale.

Thanks! I will continue to try. :-)
6mm is my own wargaming scale too..

Actually I remember that there are nothing new with casted flags, I have done that before with my Cuirassieurs..

Yes Sho's work is outstanding. I keep encouraging him to do more 10mm and hope one day he will!

Yes, one day – today. I prepare 10mm prussians mould right now. Russian and Austrian 6mm flag trios also casted well, will show them after painting.

So it is decided, I return to producing 6mm figs.
Todays testcastings succeeded, all bayonets casted well.

Production lines scheduled.

I prepared some trios from my old sculpts and will make moulds for them.
From left to right:
Waterloo British: Highlanders, Stovepipe shakos, Belgic shakos.
Early Austrians: Grenadiers, Musketeers.
French: Old Guard Grenadiers, Middle Guard Fusiliers, 1813-1815 Infantry, 1806-1812 Infantry, Bicorne Infantry.
Russian Grenadiers.

they are looking very promising, when do you hope to have them available for sale?

Hard to say. They are on the end of producing schedule now. Commissioned 1:100 figures goes first.

Also I lost my silicone supplier (shop closed), so soon I must be very careful to choose what moulds I will do. So far I got 1 kg silicone for 30 EUR, but now there are available only 0.5 kg silicones for 50 EUR.

hi I just wondered how are your 6mm plans coming on – i think i saw a post from you saying you were having production problems getting the mass of metal right?

Yes, most of trios are heavier than 1gr.
Especially Old Guard.
But some are good.
Like French pre-Bardin Line Infantry.
These will be moulded for production on some day.

Hip-hip-hurreigh!
I had heavy doubts but my new silicone works for 6mm even better than previous one.
So I am back.

I am not allowed to talk about this here, so news about released sets will be later in form of advertises.

Fantastic news
will you release any of your old 6mm figures again too? they looked amazing but I had not returned to my old hobby until last year so could not buy any
J

These are my old figures, only in trios now. Ready for wargaming.

I have just ordered 80 triples of French as a try out. I am looking forward to them. I use only Adler cavalry but have some Baccus infantry units but I have to make the bayonets thinner for my taste. you seem to have worked hard to make them look better

From my 6mm Hall of Fame..
My first sold 6mm trios are painted now.