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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP21 Aug 2019 2:33 p.m. PST

"Time and again history has shown that a terrible military defeat can be the catalyst for major reforms and improvements, and one such was the defeat of Prussia by France at the Battle of Jena in 1806. Prussia suffered enormously after this disaster, but it also began or accelerated a series of reforms that were to greatly benefit Prussia, many being in the Army itself. The newly modernised army remained small at French insistence, but Prussia reluctantly contributed troops to Napoleon's invasion of Russia in 1812. After the disastrous French defeat, Prussia and much of Germany rose up against the French, and helped force the abdication of Napoleon the following year. His final grasp for power in 1815 would be destroyed on the field of Waterloo, and the reinvigorated Prussian Army played a huge part in that decisive clash…"



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Oliver Schmidt22 Aug 2019 5:50 a.m. PST

It would be useful if designers checked the contemporary drill regulations (and human anatomy) before designing miniatures.

The two miniatures on the lower image with the number (4), hold their muskets in a way not corresponding to anything Prussian.

And just for fun, try to hold drum sticks exactly as the drummer does.

Prussian flags were not carried by officers.

The way of the officer holding the sword like a band conductor's baton is also not reglementary. But of course it is not impossible that in the course of their lives, Prussian officers sometimes happened to hold their swords like this for a moment or two …

von Winterfeldt22 Aug 2019 5:54 a.m. PST

It would be useful if designers checked the contemporary drill regulations (and human anatomy) before designing miniatures.

alas only some very few do.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2019 10:32 a.m. PST



SHaT198423 Aug 2019 9:42 p.m. PST

When did production of any model relate to reality?

von Winterfeldt23 Aug 2019 10:40 p.m. PST

When did production of any model relate to reality?

in case it should be modeled according to a human being, it should at least resemble the outlook and the anatomical possibilities, – so one head instead of three – or one elbow joint instead on five, there are different styles evidently – for example heroic style.

Indeed there exist some sculptors who take great pains to get such things right, as size of cartridge boxes, equipment belts etc.

It might not a criteria to you – but it is for me – and there exists fantasy.

Pauls Bods24 Aug 2019 10:34 a.m. PST

The way they are lined up on the pics. The one third from Right appears to be Looking at the guy to his Right as if hes thinking "drunk again?"
The pair To the left of the drunk also seem to be Looking on in puzzlement.
The one on the far left Looking at the next one along who also Looks like hes suffering from the night before.

The Drummer has probably got a Splitting headache due to one too many, hence hes Holding the drumsticks as he is…and slowly seeking the comfort of the Ground to his Right.
The Standard bearer is definately using the flag as a counterweight to stay upright.

Discipline seems to have broken down in this Regiment!!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP24 Aug 2019 2:29 p.m. PST

and yet…

Someone out there must be buying such rubbish.

Maybe they do not care too much.

Bless them. The makers are professionals. They think they can make some commercial living out of these figures.

But I have to ask…who advises them? How more difficult is it to get figures moulded standing upright (I nearly said erect)? I could not pretend to be any expert on Prussian infantry, but I imagine there are countless such here who would give them advice gratis.

Who advises these people?

Again I will say how marvellous are the folk who do these reviews as linked. I find myself going back, after reading their criticisms, and thinking…oh yes, I knew that…of course I did. Just like Donald Rumsfeld, I did not know I knew that…..

Snapper6902 Sep 2019 1:13 a.m. PST

The top row of figures are just about acceptable, although their short sabres are poorly defined and they are missing their mess tins. At least all wear covered shakos. On the second row figures, I can only echo the comments shown above.

SHaT198401 Oct 2019 1:57 a.m. PST

It might not a criteria to you but it is for me and there exists fantasy.

The fantasy is that they care at all.
Bodily deformation aside, which WAS NOT the topic of the post, that you raise, is irrelevant.

That articles of clothing or equipment in the wrong shape/ design/ position (artillery anyone??) or even completely incorrect hypotheses (hey, anyone know that Prussian Kurassier didnt wear one in this period!) except the model makers- yes! And I've never seen a Prussian Army of Occupation when they flogged the Frenchies post Waterloo…

So yeah, I do care. My armies are modelled with variety of individual soldiers in units and officers @ 1:1 ratio. All as individual and customised down to their ADCs, Adjoints and Etats-Major.
cheers d

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