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Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Aug 2019 4:37 a.m. PST

I must release the set of Dutch 1794 infantry on this year, but the only sources I have are series of such pictures..

So front images of troopers I have, but musicians, NCO, officers? Also trooper rear views, ammo box badges, backpacks?
Are there pictures of them available on internet, hidden from Google search?

John Armatys19 Aug 2019 5:49 a.m. PST

There is a 1792 Guards officer here ca-ira.blogspot.com/2017

And a note on drummers in 1793 here link

And this kickstarter suggest that someone is ahead of you link

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Aug 2019 6:43 a.m. PST

Wow, thanks!
There are one painting with all information I need. Except the troopers rear view.

And this kickstarter is about 28mm, but I produce from 6mm to 15(18)mm. So no competition here.

Lets party with Cossacks Supporting Member of TMP19 Aug 2019 7:55 a.m. PST

And you produce your world famous 10mm as well!

Brownand20 Aug 2019 6:43 a.m. PST

I have put some info on the ca-ira blog of infantry backs.

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Aug 2019 7:00 a.m. PST

Ooo, thank you very mutch, Brownand!
Nice and informative pictures, this will be interesting set to opposite my Les "Savages" Bleus.

Brownand20 Aug 2019 10:21 a.m. PST

according to official reglements, musicians had the same uniforms as the line but had added swallownests and probably lacing in the colonels' colours

von Winterfeldt20 Aug 2019 11:20 a.m. PST

I will send you a side view of an infantryman – where you can clearly see the turnbacks, sabre a cartridge pouch.

von Winterfeldt20 Aug 2019 11:43 a.m. PST

see also

link

I am quite surprised by the huge packs, not sure how trustworthy the artist is, seemingly not contemporary

Brownand20 Aug 2019 4:25 p.m. PST

these paintings I put on Ca-Ira (see link by Winterfeldt) are not contemporary but are from the side of the Dutch Military Museum.
They are made by C.(Cees) S. Boode who made a lot of pictures of Dutch and foreign military uniforms.

von Winterfeldt21 Aug 2019 2:00 a.m. PST

@Brownand

Thanks for putting all this wonderful information on your thread.

As said I am a bit suprised by those back pacs, which are even of differnt pattern, like French 7YW – or British envelope pattern or even as for French infantry of 1786.

Looking at the Dutch uniforms, they pretty much look like Northern or Prussian style of fashion, you I would have assumed that they would carry hip packs and bread bags as well.

When the Dutch became part of the Batavian Republic, then of course uniform styles changed and were Frenchified.

Prince of Essling21 Aug 2019 1:09 p.m. PST

Contemporary artist Dirk Langendyk (Langendijk) has following in the NYPL collection:
link
link


Another variation of the back pack:
link

This set on the coats is also useful:
link

Back view supposedly 1795:
link

Brownand22 Aug 2019 9:14 a.m. PST

dear Prince,thanks for the info
some remarks
the first two pictures are in fact one but on the first is mentioned "naar Langendijk" so is a picture modelled from a picture of Langendijk, I think it is of Hoynck van Papendrecht ; I don't know the original of Langendijk. I think they show artillery men.The grenadierbearskin on the 2nd picture show the older model with frontplate which wasn't worn in the FR period anymore (at least officially)

The third picture show Anspach Bayreuth jägers whhich were hired troops and the uniform wasn't Dutch (they came in their unifrom to the Netherlands). If their backpack was Dutch I don't know

The 4th links show selfmade copies of the so called "Jassen" boekje (some years ago published in "Nederlandse Militaire uniformen 1752-1800" and is recommended – also an English/German version is available). These copies have on their back (now in mirror text) some remarks of the copier. Recalled seeing this in the librabry of the dutch army museum. Sadly the uniformsplates don't show the back.

the 5th link show an older uniform. According to the reglement no plate on the ammunition pouch was worn and afaik in the FR period no scalloped lace was added to the tricorn/bicorn

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Aug 2019 5:42 a.m. PST

Thank you guys! :-)
I have now all information I need.

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