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Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP18 Aug 2019 8:54 a.m. PST

I am expanding my 54mm Napoleonic collection beyond French and British to include Russians and Prussians. I noticed enough similarities between some Russian and Prussian cavalry units to, hopefully, have some units serve double duty. I realize that this is anathema to many Napoleonic players and I apologize to them. So far, I noticed similarities between the two countries' Hussars, Uhlans and possibly cuirassiers, if you ignore the subtle difference in helmets. Any thoughts or suggestions beyond shaming me? ;-)

Oliver Schmidt18 Aug 2019 9:10 a.m. PST

One difference which helps to discern similar uniforms:

On Prussian uniforms post 1808, you will find two rows of 8 buttons each, whereas the Russians have two rows of 6 buttons only.

14Bore18 Aug 2019 9:11 a.m. PST

54mm your getting into some differences, Hussar horse furniture are different, cuirassiers are close ( did a switcheroo with them in 15mm Prussian to Russians) uhlans shakos are different except Prussian guard.
But with all that it's your game, if you need to hopefully anyone will get over it.

Steamingdave218 Aug 2019 9:13 a.m. PST

Think I would be happy doing this in 10mm I have used Austrian uhlans (without lances) to represent Italian light cavalry but not sure about 54mm as such models tend to have more moulded detail.

Martin Rapier18 Aug 2019 9:42 a.m. PST

As I hate painting horses, I will gleefully interchange the various types of cavalry. As long as the jackets are roughly the right colour and you aren't subbing Hussars for Cuirassiers, who actually cares?

Yes, I do this in 54mm, as well as smaller scales.

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP18 Aug 2019 11:33 a.m. PST

The uniforms are similar, but at 54mm they are different enough to be noticeable, particularly headgear and horse furniture.

Marc the plastics fan20 Aug 2019 4:34 a.m. PST

Due to the extremely limited choices in 54mm, I would say – paint them as the unit, and they ARE that unit. A lancers czapzka is broadly the same wherever it is used. I am looking at British cavalry to use as a base for my allied cavalry, purely based on availability.

54 is a neglected scale for gaming unfortunately

Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2019 7:13 a.m. PST

Thanks, Marc. My feelings exactly. Do you visit Little Wars Revisited? This thread I started has some good suggestions for conversions for Prussian cavalry: link

Marc at work22 Aug 2019 4:25 a.m. PST

Thank you for that link Nick- I am a lapsed member and enjoyed my visit tremendously.

Some great work shown there

von Winterfeldt22 Aug 2019 6:02 a.m. PST

i suggest to collect 2 mm – then those questions become academic, as for horses in 54 mm – an air brush will solve a lot of problems.

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