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nnascati Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2019 6:54 a.m. PST

So spending money I do not yet have, I am trying to plan a squad of USMC for Vietnam using the Gringo 40s figures. From what I have found, a full strength squad is 14 guys, the HQ is a Sgt. and a Grenadier. There are 3 fireteams each consisting of an NCO with M16, 2 riflemen with M16s, and a SAW gunner with I believe a modified full auto M14. Does that sound correct on paper? I would probably add an M60 team for scenario specific cases.
Also, who has VC or NVA that are compatible to the Gringo 40s figures?

Skarper14 Aug 2019 7:55 a.m. PST

That is correct from the research I did years ago.

Bear in mind they might be seriously understrength. 2 M60 teams per platoon but they could have a 3rd.

Bismarck14 Aug 2019 8:00 a.m. PST

Nick, you pretty much got it. When the M16 came into full use, the "automatic rifleman" designation in each fire team was basically discontinued. Since the M16s had full auto capability, it was really redundant. Putting an M60 with the squad will work and you also have the option of having the entire squad made up with M14s. Not sure what rules you are using, so there might be some variation in firepower in your game if you chose that option.

Yeah, those Gringo 40s look great. A bit late in my case, since all my Vietnam Marines and Vietnamese are 20mm.


nnascati Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2019 8:13 a.m. PST

Sam, rules will likely be either FNG or Fistful of Lead, so a very personalized game from the US side.

Bismarck14 Aug 2019 11:04 a.m. PST

Another "oldie" you might want to look at is the old Charlie Company rules still available through RAFM. Inexpensive to boot. It is same side or co-op with the GM running the Viets.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Aug 2019 12:31 p.m. PST


thanks very much for the interest in my figures!
sent you a pm..hope that helps


Pete W22 Aug 2019 5:01 a.m. PST

Interesting stuff given I plan to pick up some of these figures

This is well worth a read,
Case Study of an Attack by A Marine Platoon on an NVA Company near Kin South of Da Nang 28th November 1968

PDF link

and includes this TOE diagram


jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Aug 2019 3:00 p.m. PST

interesting post..thanks!


ps some NVA released today 22.8.2019
more to follow..and more after that!!

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