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The H Man Supporting Member of TMP19 Jul 2019 5:59 p.m. PST

Or even 8k+???

Just saw they have some of the new tat coming out on 4k disc.

With BBC only just starting on classic blurays, will they jump to 4k at some point? I think yes, as there has been little need for the blurays, less $$$.

SD tape and 16mm film is a leap to 4k, but I'm sure it can be done. After all, just look at all they have achieved with the restorations (going way too far, in my opinion), a bit of upscaling is not going to deter them. Perhaps they can even set the bench mark for it, as they have in video tape restoration.

I can ramble more later.

Thoughts?

Dn Jackson19 Jul 2019 7:52 p.m. PST

When I saw the title I thought Games Workshop bought the rights to Doctor Who and we were going to see a game crossover.

You know: "Doctor Who vs the Eldar" And "Doctor Who and the Space Orks" or "Doctor Who and the Lost Race of Squats".

I really need to read titles more clearly.

D A THB20 Jul 2019 3:51 p.m. PST

I just wish that we could see some of the lost? episodes. Whenever they play the series here it stops at the 4th Dr and then restarts with the modern versions.

I just did a search for DVDs and see that most are available. Its just some of the Early years that are actually lost. Not sure that I want to pay an excessive amount for the new improved versions.

Zephyr120 Jul 2019 9:17 p.m. PST

Sadly, somebody in the BBC had all those old episodes destroyed (though about a dozen were actually found a few years ago in a storeroom.)

The H Man Supporting Member of TMP21 Jul 2019 4:05 p.m. PST

The video tape used to racord the studio and record the film of location exteriors (at the same time) was expensive. They were only allowed a few cuts per episode.

In the 70s they wiped most of the previous whos, reusing the tape.

Most of the location 16mm had been thrown away or destroyed.

Much of what survives is 16mm Black and White film, sent to countries that could not handle video tape at the time and had not been returned to the BBC (to be destroyed). These pop up from time to time.

Audios have been saved by the fans recording the episodes at home on audio tape (pre home video).

Many other stories about the recovery and restoration exist, many much more interesting. The dvd companion book has some, and the dvd special features.

The H Man Supporting Member of TMP21 Jul 2019 5:58 p.m. PST

I find that there is still a question mark over the 16mm film scanning.

If they rescanned the existing film (used for location and some effects shooting) at the time of making the DVDs, they would mostly have been 2k hd scans (one may assume). In which case the blurays could be using the same scans.

However, if they are rescanning existing film now, they are probably doing it at 4-8k (it is 16mm though). That would make future 4-8k releases affordable.

I feel the new 4k release is a test for future modern and classic releases.

As for the classic blurays, if your keen to see what they are like, look for people selling the discs with errors from the Tom Baker set. The sontaron experiment and revenge of the Cybermen. They can order replacement discs, so some people are selling the originals. You can have a Blu-ray to look at and compare for cheap.

I'm not sold. Im no fan of the modern logo being stuck on classic who. The One thing I wanted changed was the promo time before the menu, it's roughly the same dead time. The menu is a cgi tardis console, which sucks. If you own a whopping great tv, I guess the upscaling/hd scans holds some appeal, but the show was not designed for that and there is still the 4k+ possibility (more like reality, looking at the vhs, dvds, blurays…). There are some new extra features, but the DVDs already take forever to watch through completely.

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