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Glengarry510 Jul 2019 1:00 p.m. PST

In 1809 the Uhlan squadron wore green. The Brunswick Jager company wore green in the 1809 war and as part of the British army in the Peninsular War.

138SquadronRAF Supporting Member of TMP10 Jul 2019 1:30 p.m. PST

Not sure of your question, but I found this:

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Prince of Essling10 Jul 2019 1:42 p.m. PST

Or did you mean the 1809 Uhlan?

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or Sharpshooters?

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or Brunswick Owl sharpshooters in the Peninsular War?

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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2019 1:16 a.m. PST

Owl…I like it. That's a hoot.

Oels, I think but good find. That is surely what was meant.

spydr122211 Jul 2019 12:45 p.m. PST

sorry i'm looking for the unit that looks like them (Brunswicke) but in another one's army not british?i think the unit was part of a legion in Russia or Prussia? not sure?

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2019 1:46 p.m. PST

I think your original message was lost. Folk here are only working on the topic title, but are making quite an effort to help.

Take your time.

Sit down and post a sensible request. You will be amazed how helpful (and, indeed, expert) contributors are.

To be honest, your latest post makes no sense. You mean you want a unit in black, or maybe a unit in laced jackets, (but now you do not say green), in Russia or Prussia (on which side?).

Give them all a clue.

People here will help. But do take the time to pose a coherent question. It does not have to be flawless English (our US Cuzzins cannot manage that after all…it does take an Irishman to speak the Queen's English, which is strange, you must admit. But Oscar Wilde was sure, sure he was.)

Prince of Essling11 Jul 2019 3:44 p.m. PST

I did assume the Russo-German Legion (my post on that assumption appears to have disappeared into the ether) a couple of Knotel prints:

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One by Parkhaev

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From Napoleon Seriesforum (Geert van Uythoven) link

On 1 August 1813 attached to General Wallmoden's Corps with the following composition and nominal strength:
Russo-German Legion (General von Arentsschildt)[4,250]
1. Infanterie-Brigade ‘von Natzmer' (1st, 2nd, and 5th battalions)[1,500]
2. Infanterie-Brigade ‘Wardenburg' (3rd, 4th, and 6th battalions)[1,500]
1. Husaren-Regiment ‘Baron Golz' (4 squadrons)[450]
2. Husaren-Regiment ‘Graf Dohna' (4 squadrons)[450]
Two 6-pdr horse batteries (von Monhaupt), 16 guns [350]
Real strength was 150 officers, 5,987 men, and 2280 horses.
The Legion followed the Prussian organisation (NOT THE RUSSIAN!!! as nearly all officers were Prussian); the Prussian military law of 1808 was used, and the Prussian ‘Exercier-Reglement' of 1812.
There was also a jäger-company, which was attached to Oberst Graf Kielmansegge's Hanoverian Jäger-Corps.
The infantry battalions were now numbered consecutively: 1st to 6th battalion.They were brigaded together; two ‘old' and one newly raised battalion together. These brigades are sometimes also referred to as regiments.
The batteries were composed of six 6-pdr cannon and two 4 2/3 Zoll unicorns, all excellent Russian material taken from the arsenal of St. Petersburg.
On 7 December 1813, the following strength of Wallmoden's Russo-German Legion is given:
7 battalions [3,000]
1 jäger-battalion, composed of Russo-German troops and Hanoverians [500]
8 hussar squadrons [700]
artillery 16 guns
The 7th battalion was raised from Saxon deserters and prisoners by Captain von Reiche.
Plans for an 8th battalion were abolished. Instead, a third (foot) artillery battery was raised, equipped with worn out English 9-pdr cannon.

HKW link
About the third battery or foot battery:
It was equippend originally with eight worn out English 9pdr guns with iron tubes and English ammunition carriages.
After the clash at the Göhrde 6 captured French guns were att he disposal for the foot battery – after Barthold von Quistorp – Geschichte der Nordarmee im Jahre 1813 , thrid volume page 77 they were six pounder, the other of the alltogether 8 captured gusn – seem to be according to Benno Bode, Die Schlacht an der Göhred, 16. Sepember 1813, Hannover 1913, page 83 were Austrain 6 pound guns.
Von Thielmann mentions hober in July 1814 that the foot battery had 6 Iron Englsh 6 pound guns and two howitzers, while the horse artillery still had their Russain guns.

Prince of Essling12 Jul 2019 4:10 a.m. PST

Useful book:

Die kaiserlich Russisch-Deutsche Legion : ein Beitrag zur preussischen Armee-Geschichte
by Quistorp, Barthold von, 1825-1913
Publication date 1860
Publisher Berlin : C. Heymann
PDF link

von Winterfeldt12 Jul 2019 5:56 a.m. PST

I will place a link also on the usuful stuff thread

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP12 Jul 2019 1:53 p.m. PST

Gents, you are all being so incredibly helpful…and it is the usual suspects who respond.

But there is one snag.

What is the question posed?

We must start from there

spydr122212 Jul 2019 5:29 p.m. PST

it was for infantry unit.think they were in the russia-prussia legion and they were in green uniform? just like the brunswicke infantry with the long plum? this is the third time i tried to post this ?? not sure what is going on?

HappyHussar12 Jul 2019 5:46 p.m. PST

There are several miniature scenarios you can build using the Russo-German Legion and the troops of Walmoden's northern forces in 1813 vs. Davout's troops.

The Legion did suffer from desertion and was not terribly high quality overall but several of the battalions gave a good record of themselves.

Eventually they were amalgamated into the Prussian army for the 1815 campaign.

Definitely green uniforms for the jagers for that contingent.

If I were to paint miniatures again I would paint the 1813 Prussian army auxiliary formations like the various legions and freicorps. Such a variety of uniform colors and troop types. And I would use Calpe miniatures as much as possible! :)

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