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Bob the Temple Builder08 Jul 2019 12:54 p.m. PST

I have added a comment to a recent news item about Mark Wheeler's proposed replacement for the SOTCW, Model Wargames Developments.

It is imperative that people are under no illusion that this proposed new organisation has any links whatsoever with the long-established WARGAME DEVELOPMENTS (WD) , which has been operating since 1980. WD was set up at the instigation of the late Dr Paddy Griffith, and was intended to be a clearing house for new ideas and concepts in wargame design.

To do this, it has published a regular newsletter – THE NUGGET – and held an annual residential WARGAME conference – the CONFERENCE OF WARGAMERS (COW) since 1980. In fact, the most recent conference (the thirty-ninth) ended yesterday.

I have asked Mark Wheeler to change the name of his proposed organisation so that any possible confusion can be avoided. To date, he has failed to reply. In the meantime, I strongly urge people to be aware of the fact that the two organisations are in no way linked, and not to subscribe to Model Wargame Developments in the belief that they are joining WARGAME DEVELOPMENTS.

Richard Baber08 Jul 2019 11:37 p.m. PST

It should also be pointed out that the Society of Twentieth Century Wargamers (SOTCW) is NOT dead and Marks proposed organisation has nothing to do with us either – even though he insists on still using his SOTCW email – sigh…………

The SOTCW team has decided to stop producing a printed magazine – the much loved and missed Journal until sufficient material is available to do so. because of this they have suspended the subscription model and instead gone to a free online model with the forum and website where articles and reviews will appear as and when they are submitted.

I hope this clears things up from an SOTCW point of view :)

Richard B

Bob the Temple Builder08 Jul 2019 11:54 p.m. PST

Richard Baber,

It is very, VERY good news to read that the SOTCW is NOT dead. Since it was set up, it has been a very good conduit for articles etc., for wargamers who are interested in that period of history, and it is great to read that it is still going, albeit with an amended way.

I for one wish the SOTCW well.

Thank you for clearing this matter up.

Richard Baber09 Jul 2019 12:04 a.m. PST

cheers Bob, I`m sure the team will appreciate your good wishes – thanks for the kind words :)

shaun from s and s models09 Jul 2019 1:09 a.m. PST

marks sotcw email address is no longer being used so maybe that is why he has not replied to you bob.

Richard Baber09 Jul 2019 2:17 a.m. PST

Didn`t know this Shaun, he used it last time he contacted the "team"???

Yesthatphil09 Jul 2019 7:03 a.m. PST

Thank you very much to the people who devote so much of their spare time to keeping these organisations alive and letting them flourish. As a former president of The Society of Ancients, I have an idea what is involved.

I attended the 39th iteration of CoW at the weekend … sold out (as always these days) and full of everything from newly conceived historical games with classic figures to pirates, political crisis games using mobile phones (and 'whatsapp'), to workshops on how wargame the use of elephants in urban assaults in the Hellenistic period. Wow!

My local Battlefields Society used CoW to playtest (and preview) a 28mm wargamable model of the Battle of Edgcote which will be a feature of the 550th anniversary Conference in a few weeks. The feedback we got from the CoW session has really helped dot a few 'i's and cross a few 't's. Really helpful.

Diversity, of course, is welcome – so I hope Mark's ventures are successful … but it would also be great if they could be achieved in way that doesn't cause any confusion with other associations, e.g. SOTCW, say, or WD.

Please, Mark, have another look at the name (and see if you can come up with something less similar to WD)

Northampton Battlefields Society
Society of Ancients Shows North

Bob the Temple Builder09 Jul 2019 10:14 a.m. PST

Shaun from s and s models,

Interestingly, it is the SOTCW email address that he requests people contact him on … so I'm confused as to why he does that and then not use it.

Fred Cartwright09 Jul 2019 1:50 p.m. PST

I believe Mark's email has been hacked and he is no longer using the sotcw@hotmail one. Current email is if anyone is looking to contact him.

shaun from s and s models10 Jul 2019 1:25 a.m. PST

thanks fred, that would explain a lot.

Bob the Temple Builder11 Jul 2019 4:52 a.m. PST

I've just posted the following to the relevant Hobby News item:

I have finally made contact with Mark Wheeler (I had been using the wrong email address!) and he has very kindly agreed to change the tile of his organisation in order to avoid any possible confusion.

In a hobby where fostering good relationships between various individuals and organisations is vitally important, it was pleasant to discuss this situation in such a civilised way, and to resolve it so quickly and decisively. I for one hope that MWD will grow and prosper, and it will certainly be getting my support.

Texas Jack11 Jul 2019 5:00 a.m. PST

That´s wonderful Bob, and much in the spirit of our great hobby. I love a happy ending. :)

pink panzer11 Jul 2019 5:34 a.m. PST

Though a lapsed member of SOTCW, I'm pleased to hear it is alive and well. Good also to see that good sense has prevailed over the name of Mark's new group.

(Wargame Developments member since 1985…j

Richard Baber11 Jul 2019 6:39 a.m. PST

Tim, sadly a total lack of support from the membership made a printed Journal impossible, so the team decided an online model was the only solution :(

shaun from s and s models11 Jul 2019 8:17 a.m. PST

good news all round then

Richard Baber12 Jul 2019 3:08 a.m. PST

Unless you wanted the SOTCw to continue with The Journal :(

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