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Palewarrior05 Jul 2019 9:22 a.m. PST

By greens I mean the sculpted master figures :)

Long story short, I worked for Grenadier UK back in the 90's, when the company went bust I helped clear the factory. At that point I reckon I was the only employee who was a collector/wargamer, so kept scavenging stuff out the skips !

After the umpteenth time of asking Doug(Cowie) "Hey can I have this…" Doug said something like "if it's in a skip we don't want it".

Among the junk I got was a tiny box of spare weapons & shields made by Nick Lund for his Orcs, Dwarves & Trolls.

Also in this box where used /un-used goblin master figures. Some broken(during the moldmaking process) others looked intact. Even got a head part of the cool Goblin War Giant :P

After moving to a place with hardly any loft space, I am sorting out stuff to sell/bin and re-discovered this stuff.

so what do I do with them ?
i) Contact Nick Lund or Doug Cowie, to see if they want them?
ii) Destroy them so they can never be used/pirated.
iii) Fix them up & paint them for myself
iv) put them back in the box and never speak of them again.
v) Sell them to crazy millionaire miniature collectors.

HMS Exeter05 Jul 2019 9:54 a.m. PST

If you (i) odds are you'll get no response, or, just as likely, they'll ask you to (ii).

Any, and for that matter, every, rendering of a figure, be it master or retail issue unit, is imbued with the same copyright "baggage" as any other. Most recasts are knock offs made from a retail unit.

The greens you have are skip salvage casts off, explicitly abandoned by the manufacturer. There was, however, no explicit abandonment of the IP rights that were used to create them. So long as you don't try to reproduce them, you're fine.

You could (v). If the collector tried to resume production, the IP violation would be on him, but I think you'd be breaking faith with the people who trusted you to salvage the item for your own use in the first place.

Short answer, (iii) and don't advertise that they are greens, lest someone's fingers grow light.

If you're not comfy with that option, then (ii) and bask in the warm glow that you have risen above all temptation to do the unimpeachably principled thing.

Zephyr105 Jul 2019 1:56 p.m. PST

At the least you should photograph or scan the pieces for archive purposes. It would make an interesting "Catalog of the Lost"…

D A THB05 Jul 2019 3:36 p.m. PST

Mount them in a picture frame and put them on your wall.

gisbygeo05 Jul 2019 8:41 p.m. PST

You should definitely contact Doug.

dwight shrute06 Jul 2019 2:46 a.m. PST

a friend bought a load of figures in a box from ebay , in it where loads of nick lund master figures . He contacted Nick lund who was very grateful to get them back .

Darrell B D Day06 Jul 2019 8:24 a.m. PST

Doug has been made aware of this. He is wondering:
(a) Who are you?
(b) Will you be at Attack in Devizes in a couple of weeks? He will he and will be happy to talk.

DBDD

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP07 Jul 2019 5:53 a.m. PST

+1 to archiving it online somewhere

Asteroid X08 Jul 2019 7:03 p.m. PST

If he (Doug) doesn't even remember who worked for him and who he gave them to, that tells a lot.

I second the idea of putting them in a frame (picture box type) and taking photos for archiving online.

Albus Malum15 Aug 2019 9:12 p.m. PST

Personally, You should attempt to get legal right to reproduce them, find some way to benefit the community. Royalties or whatever, if any of them are things the community would enjoy.

Erzherzog Johann15 Nov 2019 6:04 p.m. PST

"If he (Doug) doesn't even remember who worked for him and who he gave them to, that tells a lot."

True, if back in the 90s I'd known and worked with a guy called Palewarrior, I'd probably remember him. However I suspect he didn't go by that name at work . . .

:-)

Cheers,
John

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