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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP04 Jul 2019 10:27 p.m. PST

"Libya's civil war has taken a catastrophic turn, plunging the country even deeper into crisis.

An airstrike hit a detention center for migrants on the outskirts of Tripoli, killing at least 44 people, a death toll that is likely to climb. At the time of this writing, it was not clear who launched the airstrike, although the militia led by Khalifa Haftar, known as the Libyan National Army (LNA), is widely suspected. The Tripoli-based Government of National Accord (GNA) blamed Haftar and called on the UN to investigate. The airstrike hit a weapons cache adjacent to the detention center…"
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Personal logo Andrew Walters Supporting Member of TMP05 Jul 2019 8:23 a.m. PST

A recent article "Edging Toward the Endgame" on strategypage.com describes the situation as the Libyan National Army finally figuring itself out and making real progress.

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So maybe it's "worse" for a while but then ends, instead of going on as it has been for another five years.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP05 Jul 2019 12:42 p.m. PST

Thanks.

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USAFpilot05 Jul 2019 12:50 p.m. PST

At what price? The policies of the previous US administration screwed the people of Libya for years. By offing Gaddafi we destabilized the country which allowed ISIS terrorists to take root and grow. If/when Libya recovers it will be no thanks to the US.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP06 Jul 2019 8:57 a.m. PST

Well, to be fair, their leader, Gaddafi (I prefer the Kaddafi spelling apparently, there are at least 112 ways to spell his last name see link at bottom of this posting for that), did sanction the assassination of a bunch of our military personnel and others in West Germany with a bomb attack on a nightclub.
Also, as I recall, he is/was suspect as being complicit in the downing of a large airliner killing hundreds, back in the day, so he brought the retribution and sanctions on himself and his people.

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"In 2003, Gaddafi accepted responsibility for the Lockerbie bombing and paid compensation to the families of the victims, although he maintained that he had never given the order for the attack.[2] Acceptance of responsibility was part of a series of requirements laid out by a UN resolution in order for sanctions against Libya to be lifted. Libya said it had to accept responsibility due to Megrahi's status as a government employee.[3]".

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We didn't "off" Gaddafi. His own people took care of that.

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Interestingly, only after he was killed by his own people did Gaddafi's daughter finally turn up, belying the false narrative that she was killed in the US air raid on his compound back in the day.

Supposedly, she fled to Algeria, and then to Oman.

Rumor has it she was thrown out of her Algerian "safe house" after setting it on fire, on purpose, multiple times, in over the top tantrums. Appears that if true, she has a temper like her father.

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Seems as if she wants to resurrect her father's spirit, and to lead the Libyans:

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USAFpilot06 Jul 2019 10:54 a.m. PST

Fair enough. Col K was no good guy and although we didn't directly target his person; we attacked his military. And what is a dictator without his military? The larger point being at that point in time he was no threat. He was contained and lately cooperating with the world community. One has to ask the question, which is worse, peace with a dictator or chaos and war?

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP06 Jul 2019 2:07 p.m. PST

I agree with you there.

I think that's finally why saner heads have prevailed, and Assad is still in power, despite many wanting to eliminate him.

Heck, even the Israelis haven't "off'ed" the guy, and they have the proximity, and no doubt the capability to do so.

Uparmored08 Jul 2019 2:53 a.m. PST

One more Obama-era foreign policy disaster.

Gaddafi was aleady scared of being rolled like Saddam so had already given up his WMD and was all friendly with the West before Obama inexplicably decided to give air support to the Arab spring rebellion and its dubious rebels.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP17 Jul 2019 11:42 a.m. PST

Glup!….


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