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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse03 Jul 2019 9:09 p.m. PST

…Kill the Bad Guys and Win Wars.

"The U.S. Army is an armed force with a truly global reach. At any given time, America's premier land power operates on several different continents simultaneously, from hot, dry deserts to humid jungles and sprawling cities. Its infantrymen carry a weapon whose lineage dates back to Vietnam but which has been constantly improved to become the weapon it is today. Rugged, simple and accurate, the M4 carbine is the standard infantry weapon of not just the Army but all of America's ground forces…"
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Personal logo Patrick R Supporting Member of TMP04 Jul 2019 3:02 a.m. PST

The M1 Garand was not 100% reliable and used corrosive primers and powder.

The M14 was also problematic at times.

The AR-10/AR-15 platform is a sound design. When it was translated into the mass-produced M16, mistakes were made.

1) They used the wrong grade of aluminum on the receivers which was highly susceptible to corrosion.
2) They changed the powder content of cartridges which caused much more fouling than than the intended powder.
3) It also threw off the timing of the rifle, causing it to malfunction.
4) They did not chrome the chamber, which resulted in corrosion and stuck cartridges.

Note that this was in 1967 (as of this writing over 52 years ago)

And there are still people who will not even touch one because "The gun is notoriously unreliable ?"

"Really ? Didn't they do jack to fix any of the problems ?"

There have been hundreds of upgrades to the M16 platform over the years, several major revisions into the current A4 variant, but almost every other aspect of the guns have been revisited over the years.

Several million people own AR-15's, if it was that bad a gun they would have noticed something …

Even if you have a problem with your AR-15 there are at least a dozen fixes and upgrades to every issue you might have.

The US Army has had at least a dozen programs since the adoption of the M16 and they never found anything good enough to replace it, despite having tried every trick in the book from three-round burst, flechettes, sabot, duplex ammo, extremely high rates of fire, ballistic computers and any other attempt to force the laws of physics into allowing for a single snap-shot to utterly obliterate any target that so much as pops a single atom from behind cover.

The last big update to Rifle technology was the conversion to a weapon that could reliably and accurately fire an intermediate cartridge at full auto, that transition has been made 50 years ago, since then we haven't forced a sufficiently big improvement to warrant a complete replacement of the M16/M4.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse04 Jul 2019 10:49 a.m. PST



Legion 406 Jul 2019 9:40 a.m. PST

Yes, the M16 did have some growing pains. But as pointed out, once those problems were "fixed". It worked reliably and effectively.

SouthernPhantom28 Jul 2019 2:52 p.m. PST

I'd make the argument that the M16/AR-15 series represents the pinnacle of brass-cartridge firearms development. You won't see a whole of lot major changes to the weapon itself; optics and fire control are where there is still room to grow.

Legion 429 Jul 2019 7:15 a.m. PST

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