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wardog30 Jun 2019 2:22 p.m. PST

when it comes to air launched anti shipping strikes we use harpoons, exocets etc
what air launched anti ships weapons (thinking agm-12c bullpup the 1000lb warhead version} did the navy use that era
the scenario target is a soviet swedlov class cruiser
this ship carried armor like just ww2 cruisers so was a tough nut?

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP30 Jun 2019 7:23 p.m. PST

There simply wasn't much else outside of Walleyes and Bullpups. Even the carrier escorts were mainly armed with SAMs, ASW, and guns. The basic philosophy was massive carrier airstrikes that would take out an opposing enemy task force.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP30 Jun 2019 9:30 p.m. PST

Unguided rockets and dumb bombs too.

Bozkashi Jones01 Jul 2019 1:24 a.m. PST

I'd agree – when looking through my 1961 copy of Janes, I'm always struck by the almost total lack of any form of offensive armament besides guns. The doctrine of the time does seem to have centred very much on the CVBG, but it's not my area of expertise.


Lion in the Stars01 Jul 2019 5:44 p.m. PST

1960s? RIM66 Standard Missile 1 (MR) is capable of hitting surface targets, but I don't know if the predecessor RIM24 Tartar was.

The long-range RIM8 Talos was surface-capable, but there were not a lot of ships capable of handling those enormous missiles (7800lbs and 32ft long!).

edit: Oops!, you meant air strikes on ships. Dumb bombs would be the primary weapon for actually sinking a ship, though AGM45 Shrikes would mission-kill any ship dependent on radar.

carne6802 Jul 2019 1:16 a.m. PST

Don't forget Zuni rockets.

wardog07 Jul 2019 12:15 p.m. PST

thanks guys
lion in the stars i forgot about anti radar missiles
the ship is moving/evading so if they turned off their radar for a few moments ,missile should miss
thinking of the way it could be defeated against land targets

Lion in the Stars11 Jul 2019 6:40 p.m. PST

Laser guided bombs were in use by 1968, so there might be some of those in use, plus Walleye TV-guided bombs in 1967.

But I would honestly expect a couple A4 Skyhawks to dive-bomb with 2000lb dumb bombs, WW2 style.

Warspite120 Jul 2019 4:21 p.m. PST

@ Lion in the Stars
"But I would honestly expect a couple A4 Skyhawks to dive-bomb with 2000lb dumb bombs, WW2 style."

Well the Argentinians were still doing it in 1982!


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