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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP29 Jun 2019 9:15 p.m. PST

"Guns are tools meant to address life or death situations, so a poorly designed or manufactured gun often earns particular scorn. The gun world has long memories of particularly bad firearms, many of which sealed the fate of brave soldiers. The rapid pace of firearms development in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries meant that few if any mistakes were repeated, but the memories of these weaponsósome with lethal consequences for the ownerólinger go on. Here are five of the worst guns ever made…."
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langobard Supporting Member of TMP30 Jun 2019 12:09 a.m. PST

Obviously a highly technical subject, but at least I had heard of the Chauchat!

Thanks Armand.

Personal logo Patrick R Supporting Member of TMP30 Jun 2019 1:19 a.m. PST

Cobray Terminator and the ZIP 22 are much worse guns than those on the list and guns like the Mercie-Berthier is arguably even worse than the Chauchat, but escapes the rankings by being fairly unknown. If you compare it to weapons of that time, then the Chauchat was just one of many designs plagued with problems and only highly expensive over-engineered guns like the Maxim were reliable in the modern sense of the word.

The Nambu Type 94 is often said to be one of the worst guns, but while it has a critically exposed sear that could cause the gun to go off if struck by accident, it was ultimately more reliable than the earlier Type 14 Nambu which was an extremely poor design.

The Breda 30 has been described as designed by people who must have hated soldiers with a burning passion.

The more recent Remington R51 a modern version of the original Model 51 was just as much a failure as the Colt 2000 in addition to looking like a model 51 had mated with a High-Point or was designed by seven year old tactical ninjas.

bsrlee30 Jun 2019 2:37 a.m. PST

Just watch 'Forgotten Weapons' on YouTube, a much more comprehensive coverage of both the good, the bad and the indifferent.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP30 Jun 2019 7:30 a.m. PST

Yeah, Patrick's right. The inherent problem with such lists is that they pick among the relatively well-known. Still, the nice thing about weapons design is that every technological advance leads to new and interesting failures, while fields like politics have to keep recycling the same bad ideas for thousands of years.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP30 Jun 2019 1:59 p.m. PST

A votre service mon ami!. (smile)


Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP01 Jul 2019 10:28 a.m. PST

Agree with bsrlee, "Forgotten Weapons" is a very educational series indeed. His take on the Chauchat is that most of the problems were caused by a poorly-engineered change to take US ammo, the original French ones worked fine.

But the show on the Breda modelo 30 is the best one. He isn't even trying to be sarcastic, but the sarcasm writes itself when it comes to the Breda.

Cloudy01 Jul 2019 11:36 a.m. PST

I owned a Type 94 Nambu once and honestly, it was a serviceable firearm. Yes, the exposed sear could be tripped if something hit it just wrong but it was actually a pretty good shooter. I would much rather have a Type 94 than an M1895 Nagant revolver- which I own…

rmaker02 Jul 2019 5:50 p.m. PST

Wilder's Lightning Brigade thought well of the Colt revolving rifle.

And no mention of the Ross?

Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Jul 2019 1:51 a.m. PST

Wilder's Lightning Brigade thought well of the Colt revolving rifle.

Am I wrong, or did they use the Spencer repeating rifle, which does not use the revolver system?

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