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Arcane Steve Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2019 4:20 a.m. PST

I am working on a Napoleonic Portuguese Artillery battery but I am having problems with establishing exactly what colour and style the uniform for the crew would have been late on in the Peninsular war. I have references ( osprey) that give the uniform as the same as the infantry but with red facings and turn backs. I have others references that give the uniform as the same as Infantry but with black facings and turn back. All references are vague as to the colour of the piping and the cuffs. The link below is to my Pinterest board and I particularly like the first picture of the figure with black facings and yellow piping. Can anyone help as to whether this is 'accurate'?
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Your help and expertise would be appreciated.

Brechtel198 Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2019 5:16 a.m. PST

I have found the Ospreys that are done by Rene Chartrand to be both accurate and scholarly.

I would use the uniform information found in those.

Regarding uniform changes during the period, there was usually a lag time for the changes to take effect, not the least being a 'wear out' period for use until issuing new uniforms with the changes.

olicana28 Jun 2019 5:44 a.m. PST

If you have Osprey vol 3, turn to page 3, Table C.

It shows the regimental distinctions for the four regiments (1st to 4th). Coat blue, then collar and cuff in a combination of blue or black blue blue, black black, black blue, blue black in that order.

Turbacks and piping were red for all regiments. Britches were blue in winter, white in summer. Gaiters black. Buttons yellow.

Stovepipe shako replaced barretino in 1810. Brass plate. Black plume.

Does that help?

Arcane Steve Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2019 6:53 a.m. PST

olicana, yes, very much so, thank you very much. I have Osprey 1 and 2 NOT 3….it's the information in volume one that is contradictory. I'll have to give up on the yellow piping, much as I like it and go with red! Thank you once again.

Prince of Essling29 Jun 2019 2:56 p.m. PST

Also see "Guerradapeninsula-marr.blogspot.com":

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Artillery Regiment No. 1
Captain-winter uniform 1806/1808
(private collection)

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Artillery Regiment No. 2
Major Summer uniform Walk
(without collar)
1806/1808
(private collection)

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Artillery Regiment No 2
Drum Major; Fife; Drum-Summer uniform-1806/1810
(private collection)

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Artillery Regiment No. 2
Captain-winter uniform-1806/1810
(private collection)

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Artillery Regiment No. 2
Gunner with winter uniform-1806/1810
(private collection)

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Artillery Regiment No. 3
Lieutenant-Colonel-winter uniform-1806/1810
(private collection)

lmntel30 Jun 2019 1:47 p.m. PST

Try Rawkins uniform cds or PDF's. available from the History book man online. Very detailed uniform guides in colour . The Portuguese one was very useful when I did mine

seneffe01 Jul 2019 3:34 a.m. PST

I agree with Kevin- Chartrand's Osprey is very good. In my experience most things written by Rene Chartrand are.

Arcane Steve Supporting Member of TMP04 Jul 2019 7:06 a.m. PST

Another thank you to those that helped with this question. Here are the figures now on the work bench ( not quite finished) and a link to my blog describing the batch paint process so far.

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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP05 Jul 2019 1:35 a.m. PST

That red piping is superb. Cuffs we can all have a bash at, but the coat, especially the vertical lapel edge or the collar, getting that anywhere near to scale, skilled!

Glencairn07 Jul 2019 3:24 a.m. PST

Nice figs..but I cant identify them. Warlord?

Arcane Steve Supporting Member of TMP08 Jul 2019 4:16 a.m. PST

Glencairn, yes, warlord figures. All being well, I should have them based properly for the end of this week and I'll post an updated blog and picture.

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