Rev Zoom | 22 Jun 2019 8:34 a.m. PST |
We played Longstreet's Assault versus Sickles Salient last night using Brigade II and this question arose – why is there no voluntary withdrawal? It is also the same in Regimental. A lot of us are used to Johnny Reb and the Disengage order. F&F has no such even though many ACW battles have troops voluntarily falling back, still facing the enemy (similar to artillery retire by prolonge). How much of a detrimental effect do you think it would have if a Well Handled maneuver allowed the unit to fall back at half movement (terrain effects in effect, of course)? By the by, the battle last night went pretty much along historical lines, although Barksdale was mortally wounded in the Peach Orchard and that led to his Mississippi Brigade getting really chewed up. |
Rev Zoom | 22 Jun 2019 8:44 a.m. PST |
I neglected to add that a unit which conducts Withdrawal movement ends disordered. |
Extra Crispy | 22 Jun 2019 8:55 a.m. PST |
Well, in Age of Eagles, the Napoleonic variant, you simply move backward at half speed. No disruption, BUT you take fire at the range for when you started. So if you are 2" away and back up 6", the enemy gets defensive fire at 2" range. As you say this was a normal maneuver, nothing particularly fancy. So I would just house rule it that way. |
Ed Mohrmann | 22 Jun 2019 10:27 a.m. PST |
Exactly. My house rule for F&F (both levels) and Br F&F's 'father' (OTR) is exactly as EC stated. |
David Manley | 22 Jun 2019 11:26 a.m. PST |
Not sure if I'm missing something in your question, but you already can withdraw – maintaining facing if up to half a move, executing an about face of moving more than half. Its on page 27 |
Rev Zoom | 22 Jun 2019 12:45 p.m. PST |
Dave – that's in the original BFF but not the new Grigade II nor the Regimental. I'll just use what's in the original BFF. Thanks for the reminder. |
aegiscg47 | 22 Jun 2019 1:51 p.m. PST |
Check page 31 under the Advance or Withdraw section. Clearly states you can spend your entire movement rate moving forward or backwards. Not sure what the problem is. |
Rev Zoom | 22 Jun 2019 2:23 p.m. PST |
Gack. We only had the QRD with us last night and we all forgot about that in the book. Thanks. |
David Manley | 22 Jun 2019 11:40 p.m. PST |
Rev – ah ok, I'm clearly Old School :) |
Pan Marek | 24 Jun 2019 8:23 a.m. PST |
Thanks for this. Many rules, for many periods, seem to think troops cannot ever retreat/withdraw for tactical reasons. Try recreating Cannae with Tactica! |