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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2019 1:13 p.m. PST


"THE CENTRAL CONTRADICTION of climate change is that it is at once the most epic problem that our species has ever faced yet it is largely invisible to the average human. From the comfort of your home, you may not realize how climate change is already affecting mental health, or ripping apart ecosystems, or how cities like Los Angeles are taking drastic measures to prepare for water shortages.

The challenge for scientists, then, is raising the alarm on something that's hard to conceptualize. But a new interactive map is perhaps one of the best visualizations yet of how climate change will transform America. Click on your city, and the map will pinpoint a modern analog city that matches what your climate may be in 2080. New York city will feel more like today's Jonesboro, Arkansas; the Bay Area more like LA; and LA more like the very tip of Baja California. If this doesn't put the dire threat of climate change into perspective for you, I'm not sure what will…"
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Personal logo mrwigglesworth Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2019 1:28 p.m. PST

Hahaha very funny 😂

14Bore20 Jun 2019 1:35 p.m. PST

It would be nice to have a orange or lime tree.

SBminisguy20 Jun 2019 1:56 p.m. PST

Huh -- so the great plains of Canada will become even richer farmland? Toronto will have milder winters??

Stryderg20 Jun 2019 2:08 p.m. PST

And the last paragraph or two debunks the whole rest of the article. Shame really, I don't like cold weather.

Personal logo PrivateSnafu Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2019 2:22 p.m. PST

I'm not scared.

VCarter20 Jun 2019 2:47 p.m. PST

I thought all AGW was to be posted on the science board.

How will our religious leaders ever tell up how wrong we are if you hide it here?

Are you just being nice?

Rdfraf Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2019 3:34 p.m. PST

Oh no! The sky is falling!

TGerritsen Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2019 4:09 p.m. PST

So, according to this map, where I live will get markedly better weather. Hmmmm.

coopman20 Jun 2019 5:11 p.m. PST

Is it April 1st again so soon? Man, time is flying by.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2019 5:58 p.m. PST

"….how cities like Los Angeles are taking drastic measures to prepare for water shortages".

If they and CA were really serious, they'd be building, or have built dams, reservoirs, and other water storage infrastructure. Heck, they'd even be encouraging everyday citizens to put in water storage tanks for runoff from roofs, etc., etc., but they're not.

Rainfall/snowpack in the state was 200% of normal this year, and much of that will flow out to the ocean to be wasted, sadly. They've been dumping water heavily from the dams, since they're at capacity and more snowmelt is expected with the warmer temperatures.

Of course, I'm happy for the fish, and for the delta, which that should help. May be good for the farmers too this year, if they're allowed to use any of it for planting and watering crops and trees.

Instead, they're telling people not to wash clothes, take showers, or water lawns. Those are their loony solutions to the "crisis" which isn't.

This has been going on for at least 40 years here, that I'm personally aware of.

On the plus side, perhaps we get one or more, Western Venices for people to enjoy.

I want a lime tree.

Of course, this will all be over in 10.5 years anyway, so I'm told, so no need to fret.

HMS Exeter20 Jun 2019 6:04 p.m. PST

I'm just pleased that true or false, right or wrong, Mar a Lago is gonna be the canary in the coal mine.

lkmjbc320 Jun 2019 7:21 p.m. PST

I thought we were all going to freeze to death in the next Ice Age brought on by pollution? Or all die because of the ozone hole.

Oh, that was back in the 70s.

Joe Collins

SBminisguy21 Jun 2019 9:13 a.m. PST

@Thresher01 thumbs up

Btw, I think the ruling party in California declared a perpetual state of water emergency. Gov Brown declared a year-round water emergency in 2014, and despite the last several years of extremely wet weather the government has never rescinded that status. This lets them control rate to bump up revenue and have more control over the state's economy. Say, you pesky farmers, better shut up or *you* may experience a water emergency!

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2019 11:56 a.m. PST



Apache 621 Jun 2019 3:25 p.m. PST

It's too bad that California is not near a large body of water that they could desalinate.

Legion 422 Jun 2019 8:13 a.m. PST

Living in NE OH, I may have beach front property sooner or later … evil grin

von Schwartz22 Jun 2019 6:21 p.m. PST

From: lkmjbc3
I thought we were all going to freeze to death in the next Ice Age brought on by pollution? Or all die because of the ozone hole.

REALLY, get with the program, lkmjbc3, that's yesterdays news, Geeez!! (smile)

von Schwartz22 Jun 2019 6:25 p.m. PST

Hey Legion, I've got some ocean front property in Nevada, are you interested?

von Schwartz22 Jun 2019 6:29 p.m. PST

GEEsuz, can't even read the article with all the FRIGGING pop-ups!!!

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP22 Jun 2019 9:39 p.m. PST

Yep, all a ruse to drastically increase water rates, and at least one Northern CA city is in trouble for "water fraud", and over-billing its customers.

Now that rainfall/snowpack is 200% of normal, where are the water rate increase rebates?

Legion 423 Jun 2019 6:28 a.m. PST

Hey Legion, I've got some ocean front property in Nevada, are you interested?
Ahh … ? No thanks … been to the Mojave a couple of times in the Army. Everything in and around the area looked pretty dry … But thanks for asking … evil grin

von Schwartz23 Jun 2019 10:28 a.m. PST

I refer you to my June 16 rant on this topic in another thread on this message board.

CO2 has been in the ground, oceans, and atmosphere since this planet was created and no problems, but suddenly, within the last 50 years, it becomes the most deadly threat to humankind ever. Did I miss it, or did some alien race fly by and dump several trillion tons of inert and non-reactive CO2 on the earth?
All this handwringing about the climate, or all I like to call it, weather, is pointless. I have been around long enough to see bad weather come and go and even noted that it kinda comes in cycles. It was colder'n witches heart in the late 60s, and the scientists claimed it was the coming of a new ice age. Then it started getting warmer and warmer, so the scientists claimed global warming, then it got really cold for a while followed by some more hot weather, the scientists didn't know wheather to SH*T or go blind so they decided to call it "Climate Change", in order to be all inclusive, and of course it has to be man caused, catastrophic, global climate change, not weather. "Polar Vortex", "Bomb Cyclones" terms used to scare the scientifically illiterate. Last I heard the "climate" hasn't been changed significantly, the Sahara is still a desert, the Amazon basin is still a rain forest, and the arctic is still frozen. Nearly 30 years ago their "Climate Models" showed that the entire eastern seaboard and Florida would be under water in under 20 years. I'm still checking the horizon for Kevin Costner and his catamaran, but all I see are trees.
None of these scientists or celebrities predicting disaster will be around 50 to 60 years from now to answer for their wild and totally incorrect predictions , why do they care?

BTW, who the hell is Leonardo DiCaprio one to talk, on his private jet going all around the world and then his multi-vehicle SUV motorcades that he likes to take to the Climate Change conventions. Anyone ever count the number of "celebrities" that arrive in their private jets before the conferences in whatever city they are in?

Legion 424 Jun 2019 7:52 a.m. PST

Well I don't know if this is a "proper" analogy ? But remember the media reporting/"hype" about the massive deaths from HIV/Aids, SARs, Ebola, etc., etc., that those could cause ?

Or during the Anthrax scare, people running around buying Gas Masks for protection after the Medias' reporting of the anthrax in the mail, etc.

Of course the fools they interviewed thought they'd all be safe if they got their families and friends surplus "gas" masks. Brought to mind some questions like :

Are the filters new, used or training types ?

Do they know how to clear and seal a gas mask ?

You may have to be wearing the mask at all times or just wait until someone is effected from anthrax. Then put on the masks.

Or wait for the accuracy of the media to report where and when anthrax was used/areas of contamination, etc., etc.

Choctaw09 Jul 2019 10:30 a.m. PST

I already live in a hot and arid area. 110 heat index today. Somehow I'll manage to survive.

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