"IRGC Claims US Drone Shot Down" Topic

The IRGC is claiming they shot down a US aerial drone.

Apparently, the US has confirmed that:

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It will be interesting to see what the response will be to this provocative action.

On the plus side, I guess we don't need "proof" of that for various people who seem to not believe US intel reports.

Depends if it was shot in international airspace or in Iranian airspace. First variant is an agression, second is valid response.

US claims international airspace, Iranians claim their airspace.

Surprise surprise.

Is that a disagreement about where the drone actually was, or about how far out into the Straits Iranian airspace extends ?

I know about the claims, but I guess with all the radars and satellites in the region it will not be too difficult to provide the materials, showing where exactly this drone was, and when it was shot ( and how long it has been there).

Drone the size of an airliner

$170 USD Million a pop, and apparently the second one shot down.

Also, they tried shooting down another one yesterday too, but failed in that attempt.

Seems like the US should eliminate their SAM network, at the very least, to send a message. Small boats too, for the limpet mine attacks.

For a sense of scale:

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So we keep poking them, threatening them, withdrawing from treaties for no reason… and we're the ones being provoked and are being "forced" to rush into another war.

And attacking their defensive military installations to "send a message" to a country that's absolutely no threat to us, and until recently had been working with us is perfectly acceptable.

Where have I heard this before? Hmmm…

The nuclear treaty with Iran was a joke, wasn't ratified by our congress (since it was so horrible), and was the worst written treaty I've ever seen that a US President considered entering into.

It did nothing to prevent Iran from getting nukes, but just delayed things a bit, and gave them tons of cash to fund their nuclear weapons program and terrorism to boot.

Flying a drone over international waters isn't provocative, nor is sailing cargo tankers through the straits.

Both were attacked, and there were several other attacks and misses apparently too.

Perhaps you should read up on ALL the threats Iran has made to the USA, Israel, and others before commenting.

Iran is definitely a bad attacker. But Trump derangement affects the judgement of many. I heard an interesting analysis today from Dick Morris Iran needs a war as a means to build support to break the sanctions & to renew the old treaty. Their target is the US left. He says we need a minimal response & avoid a War because the current US policy is working.

With new statements released yesterday the situation is not becoming clear.
US command issued some graphs proving nothing, and Iran did the same. Interesting that initially Iranian agency showed some smoking remnants, definitely on the ground, but now they're saying that they have recovered pieces of drone from their territorial waters. I guess the situation was somewhere very close to the border, possibly drone has entered Iranian airspace, the missile was launched when he was there, but hit while it was in international airspace.
That's why none of the sides showing the real radar data.
Interesting that Trump is blaming a loose officer not the Iranian government…

Sounds plausible to me, and they have lots of allies both in the USA, and outside of it, I suspect.

Tonight's news reports were certainly interesting. Not sure I buy the attacks were ready to be launched and called back at the last minute. Sounds like a bluff to me, of implausible certainty, for media broadcasting.

If true, I imagine that will only embolden the bad guys shooting down drones and attacking tankers.

Iran's economy is hurting because of the sanctions. The regime is unpopular with its own people. They are trying to provoke a US attack which will stir a feeling of nationalism among the people who will rally behind the regime.

The Iran nuclear agreement was never a treaty because it was never voted on by the Senate, because then President Obama knew it would be voted down. President Trump should play the long game and not be drawn into a military response. Let Iran continue to misbehave and show to the rest of the world what bad actors they are. The older generation is dying out and the youth of Iran want change. The regimes days are numbered and they know it.

would have thought the drones ecm capability would be able to deal with iranian missile systems?

Iran is no threat to us? I know some veterans with dead buddies killed due to Iranian backed violence in Iraq who would very much disagree with that statement.