ROBemis7th | 17 Aug 2005 6:43 a.m. PST |
I need some of these in 28mm, as I primarily concern myself with the Southern Campaign and around these parts they were all over the place! Here is how they are interpreted by Don Troinai. I'm not sure of the sources he used to compile this, but as we all know, he's usually quit thorough. Note the lack of lapels on the regimental: link To avoid too much conversion work or outright sculpting any help would be appreciated! -R. Bemis |
Capatian | 17 Aug 2005 7:00 a.m. PST |
just a thought. Have you looked through the perry miniature AWI range? There might be something you could convert in there. |
GiloUK | 17 Aug 2005 7:02 a.m. PST |
Prussian SYW fusiliers with the front plate of the hat filed off and green-stuff plume? Foundry do Prussian fusiliers without lapels. The trouble is they all have moustaches and pigtails. I'm sure Alan Perry will get around to the Volunteers of Ireland eventually
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ROBemis7th | 17 Aug 2005 7:07 a.m. PST |
Capatian
first place I looked. Thanks though |
ROBemis7th | 17 Aug 2005 7:11 a.m. PST |
AW62 is close. I thought about that pack and I guess beggers can't be choosers! I think that smy best bet. Just wanted to see if there were any other suggestions or minis I was looking past. -R |
John the OFM | 17 Aug 2005 7:27 a.m. PST |
I have never seen anything like that plate. It looks like an "as the colonel shall determine" goof-up. Frankly, I would ignore it. It looks like something out of the back of the book in Funcken for some minor German state, like for the Anabaptist Bishopric of Zenda. If you insist in believing in this plate, try a Continental Light infantry figure with a plume, like Old Glory, Front rank, RSM, etc. Whatwever figure you choose, heavy conversions will be necessary, like cuffs. You can always paint the weird lace. OG, unfortunately have very thin lapels, so check out the FR Continental LI figures. Or, the Foundry (Perry?) British LI wearing the horsetail cap, not the chain one. If you simply MUST do the VoI, I would use Foundry's "uniformed militia", which look like regimental hand-me downs. That is probably closer to reality than that plate. |
ROBemis7th | 17 Aug 2005 7:39 a.m. PST |
OFM, you are indeed correct in the fact that it was an "as the colonel shall determine" Here is the establishment letter: link "The Regiment has been clothed, and is now completely appointed, at the sole Expence of the Officers. The Commissions have been filled in a manner very different from what had been adopted with regard to other Corps on the Provincial Establishment." |
John the OFM | 17 Aug 2005 7:40 a.m. PST |
Actually, the more I look at that, the more I think that the RSM Continental Light Infantry figure would work. If you are not familiar with RSM, they are a slim "27mm" figure, made in the 80's. They have true bodily proportions, and come with one pose. Tptallu unavailable on line, the line is "marketed" by the Dayton Painting consortium. You can get them at conventions. They are even cheaper than Old Glory. |
John the OFM | 17 Aug 2005 7:43 a.m. PST |
Tptallu is Gaelic for "totally". |
ROBemis7th | 17 Aug 2005 7:46 a.m. PST |
Hey great! I'll look for them at Fall In! |
John the OFM | 17 Aug 2005 8:07 a.m. PST |
They should be there. I see them at Historicon and Cold wars all the time. They at least have an email listing in the TMP Manufacturer's listing, so that is at least soemthing. |
Rudysnelson | 17 Aug 2005 6:59 p.m. PST |
From the Light Infantry company and not the center companies. Most Loyalist unit in the South wore uncocked hats, often of white in color. Black felt did not last long in the South and deteriated quickly. |
95thRegt | 20 Sep 2008 6:18 p.m. PST |
I have never seen anything like that plate. It looks like an "as the colonel shall determine" goof-up. Frankly, I would ignore it. It looks like something out of the back of the book in Funcken for some minor German state, like for the Anabaptist Bishopric of Zenda. If you insist in believing in this plate, try a Continental Light infantry figure with a plume, like Old Glory, Front rank, RSM, etc. Whatwever figure you choose, heavy conversions will be necessary, like cuffs. You can always paint the weird lace. OG, unfortunately have very thin lapels, so check out the FR Continental LI figures. Or, the Foundry (Perry?) British LI wearing the horsetail cap, not the chain one. If you simply MUST do the VoI, I would use Foundry's "uniformed militia", which look like regimental hand-me downs. That is probably closer to reality than that plate. >>> Don Troiani is one artist who does his research VERY thouroughly.He will not do any subject till he's almost 100% sure of the details. I'd believe him over pretty much every other artist out there. I also want to do the VoI.I'm thinking about using the Perry Saratoga Brits and just give them green facings. Bob |
andygamer | 20 Sep 2008 9:43 p.m. PST |
Current direct link to the picture: link |
spontoon | 21 Sep 2008 5:36 a.m. PST |
Why so much vitriol? Looks like perfectly acceptable uniform to me. Especially for some of the " Vanity Regiments' raised in the latter AWI. Was the Colonel named Redmond Barry-Lyndon? |
Major William Martin RM | 21 Sep 2008 8:45 p.m. PST |
Actually, I have to correct one thing that John stated, the excellent RSM range IS available online through the Dayton Painting Consortium website here: link They do not have pictures of all of the ranges, unlike many more "user friendly" sites, but the guys there are great to deal with, will send samples out, and as John stated, they do work the Con circuit. If you are unable to attend a Con, or don't want to wait, I'm sure that a call to DPC would result in either sample figures or at least an e-mailed picture. And their service after the sale is excellent. Bill |
abdul666lw | 22 Sep 2008 2:21 p.m. PST |
@ John the OFM " It looks like something out of the back of the book in Funcken for some minor German state, like for the Anabaptist Bishopric of Zenda." John, John, even the Funckens knew that the Purely Defensive Godly Militia of the Anabaptist Bishopric of Zenda wore dark blue -a general pattern of colors rather similar to that of the Salvation Army, thinking of it
Cheers, Jean-Louis |
historygamer | 23 Sep 2008 7:09 a.m. PST |
Dang, that is one ugly uniform. No wonder the Irish eventually rebelled again. |
Supercilius Maximus | 23 Sep 2008 10:50 a.m. PST |
Quite right. I mean to say – TASSELS for heavens' sake! All very well for strippers and foreign troop, but totally un-British. |
historygamer | 23 Sep 2008 1:59 p.m. PST |
And un-Irish, I'd like to say. |
Virginia Tory | 25 Sep 2008 4:35 a.m. PST |
>And un-Irish, I'd like to say. Unless there were green facings in there somewhere. |
historygamer | 25 Sep 2008 5:47 a.m. PST |
Oh yeah, like that would make those goofy uniforms any better? ;-) |