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Bozkashi Jones13 Jun 2019 8:23 a.m. PST

I've got a handful of Ironclads (TD 1:2400) which I got some time ago but have yet to paint up because I've not found suitable rules.

I see David Manley has got Broadside and Ram and Dahlgren and Columbiad rule sets out, but I can't seem to find much in the way of reviews, particularly on the game play.

For anyone who has tried these, would you mind sharing your thoughts on how they play, something of the mechanics and suitability?

My main interest is in smaller actions (e.g. Huescar vs. Shah and Amethyst, the War of the Pacific and 'what if' localised wars). Between 2 and 4 ships a side would be where I'd be aiming.



Yellow Admiral13 Jun 2019 10:29 p.m. PST

I have yet to play either, but I bought both.

I probably won't bother trying Broadside & Ram. It's a very abstract low-detail system to facilitate playing the large Battle of Lissa. I wouldn't even consider it for small actions with few vessels.

The mechanics of Dahlgren & Columbiad appear to me to have just enough detail to give individual vessels unique personalities. I'm partway through developing stats to use my Lissa fleets with Dahlgren & Columbiad. It's not hard to adapt.


Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP14 Jun 2019 7:54 a.m. PST

Although I don't have either set, I do have his pre-dreadnought rules. I would opine that "Dahlgren & Columbiad" is probably a better set for what you desire.

There is also his "War of the Pacific" campaign set that might be useful. link


nnascati Supporting Member of TMP14 Jun 2019 11:57 a.m. PST

Take a look at Bob Cordery's Gridded Naval Wargame rules. Fun, easy and perfect for ship vs. ship actions.

Bozkashi Jones23 Jun 2019 3:07 a.m. PST

Cheers for that chaps – sorry for the tardy thanks but been on holiday in Cornwall.

It seems that D&C is the way to go then for the type of actions I'm interested in. Nnascati – had a look and looks interesting, thanks.


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