"Vehicles of the Durruti Column" Topic
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Makhno1918 | 11 Jun 2019 1:33 p.m. PST |
Figured I'd make this a new post, to make it easy to find. I'll include some info from Mike O's recent posts about the armored vehicles of the Durruti Column below, but I was wondering if anyone knows about the civilian and staff cars in these photos, what make and model etc: link Caption (translated): "Buenaventura Durruti and Enric Pérez Farràs lead the volunteer column who left for the front of Aragón."
Caption: "Pina del Ebro" lastly, this car with "Plana Mayor" writted on its back. Seen a photo before but can't find it now. Only the rear appears in this video at 48 seconds: 8:30https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEJ6lZi5dz8 The armored vehicles: From Mike O: "According to "Blindados: Los Medios Blindados de Ruedas en España 1909-1939 (Vol.1)" by Mata and Marin link , the Column also had a Torras 2 called "King Kong" and a large armoured truck of which little is known except it's probably a one-off command vehicle sometimes nicknamed "The Louse" (Piojo)…The aforementioned book notes that the Durruti Column later received other models – possibly the Girona-2 armoured truck and a version of Hispano-Suiza armoured car" So thats: - King Kong - Piojo Movil -2 Vulcano-1's, -2 MTM-1 armoured trucks, -and perhaps Girona-2 armoured truck and a version of Hispano-Suiza armoured car" |
Makhno1918 | 15 Jun 2019 6:39 p.m. PST |
Rereading Paz I found on page 479 an answer to my first question: (on leaving Barcelona) "between the two buses, there was a "hispano" automobile carrying Durruti and Pérez Farràs…" quick Google search brings up Hispano Suiza. Here the link to the photo again link Here's wiki of Hispano Suizo H6: link Anyone seen a model of this vehicle (besides the minairons armored Hispano)? I purchased an ACE models Mercedes Type 770K (W-150) Cabriolet F 7-passenger staff car, closest ive seen yet to my layman's eye. Thinking of doing some conversions, such as omitting the roof, removing middle section of seats (these cars seem to run smaller than 1/72 figs anyway, seems like my Durruti and Farràs will fit better), adding a bar between the headlights etc. I also have a Vauxhall D-Type Staff Car from Roden Models. Similarly looks close to my ignorant eye, and its has no extra row but only 1 spare tire and is quite small for my minis. Not having the proper vehicle I'm torn between which of the two to work to convert into a hispano, would love some advice. Lastly, I also bought 2 Citroen Traction Avants from ACE. I have no leads on the actual make/model of the other two cars listed above (Caption: "Pina del Ebro" and video "Plana mayor") though am considering one Citroen as is for the first and another with the spare tire shifted to the side for the second. I'm excited to mark these up with CNT-FAI slogans. As usual, I'm looking forward to everyone's thoughts and suggestions! |
Makhno1918 | 26 Jun 2019 3:54 a.m. PST |
I realize I'm posting to myself here, but I swear this will be useful to someone else some day. I found a website claiming to be selling the very car in the first link (Hispano leaving Barcelona): link Looks quite similar but there has definitely been work done if its the exact same one. Here's from the website: "The car was originally bought by a family from Manresa. Barcelona. who barely had time to enjoy their new automobile. When Civil War broke out after a savage military uprising the car was requisitioned by Republican militias. The Hispano-Suiza quickly became tragically famous among the local population… It ended up with the followers of Buenaventura Durruti. one of the leading figures of the Spanish anarchist movement and its trade union organisation. the CNT." I'm curious about the original paint job, I've seen a colorized version in bright yellow that seems unlikely to me, but what do I know. The website also mentions a Packard, as did Paz's book and other sources, but i've not been able to match that to any of the photos I've found or learn anything useful about the Packard they used (other than it was probably what he climbed into after being shot in Madrid). Here's 2 photos I found of Durruti and co in a seemingly another car (not the Hispano): link
Not much of the vehicle in the photos, will probably be hard to make out. It may be the same car in this curious photo I'd never seen before, and because it came from twitter and I found on google image I can't find the source of it: link It may also be this car, though seems less likely:
Any insight would be appreciated. |
Makhno1918 | 18 Apr 2020 7:43 a.m. PST |
Hi all, i just launched a new blog, mostly to share what Im working on with you fine folks. First post is my Vehicles of the Durruti Column: link |
Mike O | 18 Apr 2020 4:20 p.m. PST |
Awesome new blog, mate, keep it rolling! The Return of the Durruti Column link link (Even though Vini Reilly didn't know how to spell "Durruti") |
Simon E Davies | 23 Apr 2020 11:54 p.m. PST |
Really useful posts, thank you. I am just starting to build a Durruti Column Sector (three Agrupacións of five Centurias each) using Peter Pig figures and vehicles from Peter Pig, Panzer Garage and Minairons. I'm also buying a Mercedes from Shapeways to turn into a smart staff car. |
Makhno1918 | 24 Apr 2020 5:31 a.m. PST |
That sounds like a great project! I hope you share some photos when your done. |
Mike O | 24 Apr 2020 6:51 a.m. PST |
15mm metal I'm guessing, Simon? Consider the possibilities of 1/72 scale (23mm not 20mm) ;) |
Simon E Davies | 26 Apr 2020 7:32 a.m. PST |
Hi Mike Yes, 15mm mainly because it is what the chap who inspired me to get back into SCW wargaming was playing with. However I do think it is a good scale for 20th century warfare at battalion to brigade level. I only have space for a 4' by 6' board but in 15mm scale with 1 figure to around 10 men it represents just over 1.2 by 1.8 km of ground, which gives you room for manoeuvring and flanks. I do like the detail of 20mm figures and clearly the range of vehicles and guns is better, but I also like the fact that 15mm figures can almost get lost in the terrain! Cheers Simon |
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